Saw a piece in my local newspaper about starting a franchise here in Vegas for an Indoor Soccer team? Indoor? Lots and lots of scoring? Something like ice hockey on AstroTurf? I think it'll be as big a flop as indoor football.
it's fun to play indoor you get to use the walls so basically you can pass to yourself it's fast paced and it can be high scoring. No delays due to lightning. No missed matches due to snow. small sided soccer such as 3v3 and indoor soccer are great for improving skills and playing at pace
it's a niche sport, it'll have a following but like anywhere else it's played in europe and s. America the outdoor game still rules...
Actually it is quit popular in many places and fun to watch, yes it is faster paced than soccer played on a larger grass field.
Since I live in New England and we get lots of snow... we have tons of indoor soccer around here. My daughter plays indoor soccer every winter season. She loves it. They play 6v6 and its a much faster game due to the turf. You can play the ball off the walls. The only out of bounds is if it goes into the rafters. She has been pushed into the glass many times (as well as done the pushing). And as someone stated earlier its great for keeping up her skills in the off seasons.
played and coached indoor and outdoor for 40 yrs let me add my opinion Using the walls actually weakens skill levels...its no quicker than the outdoor game, it's an illusion because its played in a much much smaller playing area...no offense meant toward your daughter but people who prefer indoor over outdoor are generally not as technically or tactically skilled as their outdoor counterparts, blame the walls for that....its like comparing racketball with tennis, anyone can play racketball and have fun because the walls keep the ball in play whereas tennis requires a significantly higher technical level to play well... Having said that I enjoyed playing the indoor game, it was preferrable to playing outdoors at minus 20...
Smaller playing field makes the game faster not to mention use of the walls, are you just trying to be arguementative? FYI, I am not interested in discussing issues or topics on this board with you since you have already shown clearly that you are only here to argue and I really do not have patience or time to waste on another screamer. So, just so you know, this is the last reply you will get from from me on the board. have a Good Life. Bye Bye
what a childish loser attitude.. .ive played and coached both games for 40 plus years there is no difference, its perception...a player or ball doesn't get faster or quicker playing on a different smaller area...next youll be claiming the speed of light is faster in your beroom than it is in space...silly logic, stick to commenting on things you actually know something, which is certianly not soccer...
There ya go proving again that I am correct in my opinion of your character and style, welcome to Ignore.
correct, people don't run faster because it's indoors but pay attention to what is said, it's faster paced. 3v3 is also faster apced why is that? the pitch is smaller so movement to the ball and off ball movement must be done at faster pace because space gets closed down quickly I disagree about wall passes making a player weak because it reinforces the concept of the give-and-go and to continue your run even after playing the ball to a team mate. I'll take small sided games for teaching skills any day of the week. I never made it past my D license because it was not my livelihood but I too have played for years, trained and coached for years and had the fortune of also being mentored by a woman who played on the English nat'l team Also, as you get older, there is something to be said about not freezing your cajones, getting soaked in the rain or sweating like crazy. On a positive note, even with the rubberized pitch, it's possible to play in trainers and retain your footing vs having to wear spikes.
it's still perception, the smaller surface keeps you in the play, whereas on a big surface the 3v3 or 4v4 has a rotating cast who stay on the pitch and catch their breath, the indoor players actually leave the playing surface to recover...the speed of a 3v3 on a small surface is no different than a large surface, watch those situations on the big surface and becomes apparent the actual playing area these situations occur are the same.... Ever played elite soccer? The time you get before you're closed down relative the area of the pitch and the tactics of teams involved...indoor surface is about the size of the penalth area, let me know how much time you think you'll get in that area...you have a perception of quickness indoor because you're rarely out of the play and have little recovery time... the wall is not a person, it cannot take away or add pace to the ball, it cannot change the angle of the return, it gives a false sense of accuracy....as a coach I teach my players when to continue their run I dont need a wall to do that... small sided games as a teaching tool was developed by the dutch KNVB, which was transferred to many countries including the USA, my direct coaching mentor was a KNVB coach...the small sided training games are meant to be played without walls, all my sessions indoors were done without walls...walls decrease the need for passing accuracy and one touch control... I was a C license eligible for my B license but the time and money required was a step to far for me, my friends/mentors consisted of National team coaches from Brazil, Netherlands,Canada..., my teammates were a mix of international of ex pros and elite amatuers all but one an A, B C level coach(agreeing to a pre game strategy and half time adjustment went surprisingly easy)....I played against elite women teams a number of whom played for the canadian national team, one was still playing in the last olympics....the best they could ever do was a draw vs out of shape over 40s and we were instructed not to challenge on 50/50 balls...women despite the hype are still no where the equal of men, one of my teammates an A level coach played his under 18 boys club team in a friendly the with the national womens team and humbled them... indoor is definitely comfy, no rain, heat, cold, mosquitoes or wind and we have a bar for post game beers...
She prefers outdoor but instead of being static for the winter months she plays indoor to keep her skill level up. In my opinion, It is faster than outdoor and the wall does make a difference.The ball is pretty much always in play. You can use the wall to your advantage, just as they do in hockey. Yes, smaller playing area but also smaller team size. And yes, much preferable to being outside in 20 degrees.
Playing any type of soccer is preferrable to inactivity all winter... I've no objection to someone preferring one game over the other... it's not faster than the outdoor game you get that impression because the walls keep the ball in play, using the walls erodes technical skills... the playing area of indoor is virtually the same as outdoor, watch a wc game and you'll observe the majority of play at any one moment is compressed into the same space as an indoor game...often with more players in that area than you'd find in an indoor game... ...if you compare a low level indoor game vs the indoor game played by elite players you'll observe the elite players make very little use of the walls...the better the technical and tactical level of the player the less they'll use the walls... many regions play the european/s american indoor game (Futsal)that does not use walls, it requires a higher technical ability to play but also develops that ability...
ok, I am talking 15 year olds playing indoor soccer...not Futsal. http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4727437_indoor-soccer-differ-outdoor-soccer.html http://www.ifootballkits.com/indoor-vs-outdoor-soccer/
I may concede the point with respect to top shelf players. For the majority of players, the pace IS FASTER in indoor as well as in 3v3. Also, we will agree to disagree about the use of the wall. Again, top shelf players understand the concept of using all dimensions of the game while even in the High School level you see players who don't make runs and lack the understanding of the importance of off-ball movement. By putting them into a situation where the ball can come from various locations it forces them to break their mental barriers and start moving, look laterally, not just forward etc. Again, different skill levels. Also, the beauty of the game is that we all don't play the same, we all don't train the same and we all don't coach the game. Also, when we don't have the luxury of having 18 elite players, heck, even 6, then we do the best we can with what we have. I saw the most improvement in individual skills when I divided my side into qty 3 3v3 teams and entered them into 3v3 tournaments. Again, only a few were elite level U18 players and I had no control over the training they had received up to that point. So, before discounting what people say, you need to understand the entire picture. Again, top-shelf players understand pace and space. Good for you if that is what you've always had. Many of us out here, especially with HS teams have a limited talent pool and small sided and indoor does get them to increase their pace.
ahh, you're not crazy. Your perception that indoor for girls is faster is correct. I've also trained and coached female teams and I'll be honest, it's frustrating getting them to attack balls in the air but indoor helped with that as well. Sure, it's a mental block because even with sessions focusing on balls in the air outdoors, when we came indoors they somehow viewed it differently and amazingly started challenging and volleying balls while still in the air.
Thank you..I dont mean to be argumentative but ..well...ok, maybe I do, but I dont think he was undstanding where I was coming from. You just stated my argument more eloquently than I did.
the elite referance isn't the only distinction it's just an obvious comparison point for someone who doesn't know the game....an experienced observant coach will see the difference in every ascending level of play... Again claiming an indoor situation 3 v 3 is quicker than a 3 v 3 outdoor in the small confined area is bizarre, are the players faster? No...is the ball faster? No... really, well I guess I'll inform the Netherlands national youth coach that they've got all wrong according to you..you don't disagree with just me but every A and B license coach I've ever trained with... you like to defer to elite players as an excuse but I've taught 9 yr old girls to make overlapping runs off the ball...and I didnt need a wall to do it...the wall becomes a crutch for inadequate technical ability, technical ability must come before tactical knowledge... this is the common error, worrying about positional play before technical proficiency....it doesnt matter if the child runs to the correct position if player A cant deliver the ball accurately and player B can't control the ball if does reach him...and that's exactly what the walls do, no need for an accurate pass because the wall will keep the ball in play, no need to develop a crucial 1st touch control because the wall will save it... some of us play well and others play poorly and that is the result of faulty training systems... I've worked with high level coaches at the elite levels and with 8-9yr old girls the training methods are the same... I'm not disputing the value of small sided games, the issue is believing walls aid the learning process... I've trained 3-4 yr old babes to elite adults, and every technical level and age group in between, there is no difference...
speed of the ball is the same, speed of the player does not change from outdoor to indoor...you must live in a world with alternate laws of physics...what your seeing is wasted energy and poor technical skills, kids mindlessly hammering the ball around and blindly chasing it...
here you go getting testy please review why I like small sided games. Is it for tactics or technical skills? We can also compare dick sizes with how many A or B coaches we each have worked as well as other level players and coaches. We all can cite the player who made runs at 9 years of age as well as those who were planted like fence posts. Again I state, we can agree to disagree. We all steal what we like from each other and discard what we don't like, or doesn't work at that moment. I will personally continue to play indoor, will encourage others to do as well and play 3v3.
I never said "speed of ball" un-puff your chest for a moment my exact word is "pace" pace of play Maybe you've been blessed to only being exposed to players who run their guts out. By compacting a field, it forces you to get to the ball a lot quicker because the opponent can close down quicker. So, you've already "license dropped" which I could do as well what's next, should we compare how many district, regional and state championship teams we've trained or coached? Should we compare how many of our players received scholarships through the years? How about how many years we went without a seriously injured player? How about if we compare Team USA paraphernalia, maybe I have a big finger but you have the jumbo sun glasses
