The true story about "Palestinians"

This is what happened -

From a lecture to Arab students at "Bir-Ziet" university :

Many years ago Prophet Moses came to Israel.
God told him to climb on Mount Nevo and to view the Promised Land.
Moses went up on the mountain and watched the country.
After that Moses went down to the Jordan River and entered the water. When he came out of the water
he was surprised to see that his clothes were gone !!.
Moses asked "who took my clothes ?"
The lecturer said "Palestinians" !!
The Arab crowd got very angry and shouted to the lecturer "But then there were no Palestinians."
"Ohhh" .. said the lecturer - "From here I really want to start my lecture" ..........

 

The Palestinians began settling in the hill country around 700 BC or earlier.. As Bedouin began to settle and grow grain for their flocks. You might want to try and learn something of the changes after the coming of the sea people. Serious Israeli scholars are not fooled.

 

Palestinians are BEDOUINS.
Their true country is Jordan.

 

Jordan is the home of Petra... Nabeateans.. They weren't Bedouin.

 

Jordan is the home of Palestinians.
More than 75% to 80% of Jordan's population are Palestinian Bedouins.

 

If you bothered with any history of the region, you'd know that they were Jewish farmers who didn't leave and subsequently intermarried with Arabs and Edomites, Turks, Syrians, Greeks, Crusaders and Romans. Stop making a fool of yourself with false history.

 

No one is a fool but those who believe in fantasies and chimeras... Now back at the farm...

Granddaughter to Israel for Treatment
Israel is the devil and the merciless foe of the Palestinian Arabs. Except for when a Palestinian leader or one of his or her family members needs emergency medical care.

Israel on Sunday provided such treatment to Amal Haniyeh, granddaughter of Gaza-based Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, of all people.

The one-year-old girl had reportedly deteriorated to critical condition after contracting an acute infection of her digestive tract. Seemingly without hesitation, Haniyeh sent the girl to Israel, and the Jewish state, equally without hesitation, opened its arms to help the child.

Nor was little Amal the first member of the Haniyeh family to receive medical care from Israel. In the summer of 2012, Haniyeh's brother-in-law was rushed across the border to receive urgent heart treatment at a hospital near Tel Aviv.

Now, this is nothing new on the Israeli side of the equation. Hundreds of Palestinians from Gaza enter Israel every month for medical treatment, some of it life-saving.

But for Haniyeh himself to send his own flesh and blood into what he and other Hamas leaders describe as the lion's den certainly must send the wrong kind of message.

Speaking at a conference on education last year, Haniyeh labeled Israel "a cancerous tumor that must be removed and uprooted," and urged Palestinian school teachers to "raise a generation that will fight and liberate the Palestinians from the occupation."

And, no, his definition of "occupation" is not confined to the pre-1967 armistice lines.

"The armed...struggle [is] the path and the strategic choice for liberating the Palestinian land, from the [Mediterranean] sea to the [Jordan] river, and for the expulsion of the invaders and usurpers [Israel]... We won't relinquish one inch of the land of Palestine," Haniyeh stated in December 2011 on the occasion of Hamas' 24th anniversary.

Two months later in Tehran, Haniyeh insisted that Hamas would "never recognize Israel," regardless of any peace agreement reached between Israel and other Palestinian leaders.

One must wonder, if Hamas' long-term strategic goals are met, where then will Haniyeh send his family when they become ill?

 

Man prepared to do anything to save the life of his one year old daughter! WOW! I do not know if you have kids but believe me when my baby son was ill I would of signed a pact with the devil to save him.

 

There were no Palestinians then an there are none today!
Well there were Arab squatters from the surrounding Arab countries who came to work and stayed.
Later 1964 Arafat opted for the name Palestine since Israel had shed that nomenclature to Israel... Arafat and Nasser jumped on the opportunity to give substance to a <FAUX NATIONALISM>, and since then today there are rebellious so called Paleos who think they are going to achieve something... What they achieved so far is that Arafat managed to embezzle 4 Billion dollars that his wife refuses to surrender to the PLO... That <FAUX NATIONALISM> has spawned fat cats that get paid for their mischief, squares are named after them, and those leaving Israeli prisons receive umpteen dollars per year.

There are Arab Israelis that vote and are represented in the Knesset, There are Judges and lawyers and there are some quite educated thanks to Israeli universities... they are national of the country of Israel and even flaunt Israeli passport on their vacations abroad.

 

Why are you, an intelligent person, even attempting to debate with these slogans-shouting ziobots is beyond me. It's not like they were human beings, you know.

 

Atwan : Arab leader wish that the Israelis finish Hamas VIDEO


http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/a...All&utm_term=Hamas_arabworld_png_3F1405673435

 

Israel&#8217;s UN Ambassador Says There Are More Hamas Missiles at UNRWA Facilities

~By ALGEMEINER STAFF

Update your knowledge

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/1...kely-more-hamas-missiles-at-unrwa-facilities/

 

It's bizarre how you expect Arabs to mind a piece of land for 2000 years and then when you can be bothered going there, declaring that you are descended from the people who lived there 2000 years ago, you expect them to politely step aside.

What about back rent? Maybe they owe you money too?

or maybe you should be giving them a finders fee? or some pocket money for house sitting?

 

Kalam Fadi means Empty rhetoric

Noone in this world should compensate opportunists that came from the surrounding Arab countries and Muslim Europe to work here and stayed... I say they have been compensated enough by their shoddy work and the beginning and slowly slowly managed to overcome that cripling habit of theirs when they were forced to understand what they had to do to earn a living.
These people are in Israel because in their country of origin they will become corner mendicants.

What was the state of the land - its ownership and cultivation - at the end of the period of Turkish rule? Most of the territory was concentrated in the hands of a few wealthy landlords, most of whom lived far from their property. In many cases these lands were, or seemed, unfit for agriculture, and were therefore neither settled nor cultivated. Tenant farmers worked occasional plots. According to a Turkish register drawn up shortly before World War 1, there were at that time 3,130,000 Dunams in the hands of 144 landlords that is, approximately 22,000 Dunams average per family. In the Nablus and Tul-Karem districts, five families held 157,000 Dunams, of which the Husseini family owned 50,000 Dunams in various parts of the country, and the Abdel-Hadi family 60,000. The largest single holding, 230,000 Dunams in the Jezreel valley, was in the hands of the Sursuk family, which resided in Beirut and Cairo.

The Palestinian peasant, then, was indeed exploited and at times dispossessed, not by the Jewish settler, but rather by his fellow-Arabs: the local sheiks, the Bedouin village elders, the Turkish tax collector, the merchants and moneylenders (at interest rates as high as 60%), and if he was a tenant-farmer = imported Land Tiller from Muslim Europe, as was usually the case, by the absentee landlord as well.

When considering the issue of the lands which passed from Arabs to Jews, and on which the pioneering Zionist settlement was founded, six facts should be borne in mind:
(1) The land was paid for in full.
(2) Most of the land purchased involved large tracts belonging to absentee landlords.
(3) Most of the land acquired was uncultivated because it was swampy, sandy, or rocky, or for other reasons considered unsuitable for agriculture.
(4) For this reason, the initial purchases did not involve large sums of money, but with the passage of years the price of land began to rise as Arab landowners took advantage of the growing demand for rural tracts.
(5) Modern agricultural methods introduced by the Jewish pioneers, which improved the lands and increased their yield, were quickly adopted by the neighboring Arab farmers.
(6) The number of farmers forced to leave their land due to the Zionist undertaking was relatively very small.

All those who left were compensated in accordance with the law, either by monetary payment or by other agricultural land; and indeed most continued to be farmers.

Furthermore, a large number of Arabs from other parts of the country or from neighboring countries settled in the areas developed by the Jews.

Following are some revealing statistics:
(1) Out of the 429,887 Dunams acquired by PICA (Palestine Jewish Colonization Association) from private landowners between 1880 and 1947, 293,545 Dunams - close to 70% - were large tracts of uncultivated land, most of which belonged to absentee landlords.
(2) The purchases of the Palestine Land Development Corporation included an even greater percentage of large tracts - approximately 90% (455,169 Dunams out of 512,979, which were purchased of private owners).
If we add to this the 66,513 Dunams of Beersheba desert land and the swamps of the Hula Valley, we will find that the purchases of the corporation totaled close to 580,000 Dunams.

(3) A third body which purchased property in Palestine was the Jewish National Fund, which leased the lands to groups or individual settlers for periods of forty-nine or ninety-nine years, in accordance with the principle that the Land of Israel belongs to the Jewish People, and no one has the right to hold permanent ownership of Israeli soil. In the first thirty years of its existence, the JNF acquired 270,084 Dunams, of which 239,170 (close to 90%) were large tracts. This percentage dropped during subsequent years, but of the total area of 566,312 Dunams purchased by individuals, at least 50% were large tracts of land which was either totally uncultivated or only superficially cultivated.

The prices paid by Jewish individuals and organizations for property in Palestine reached, during the 1930s, legendary proportions. The Palestine Royal Commission ("the Peel Commission" of 1937 reported that in the year 1933 alone sums totaling 854,769 Pounds sterling were paid; in 1934 the total reached 1,647,836 Pounds sterling and in 1935, 1,699,488 Pounds sterling. During those three years alone, then, the total sum paid to Arab landlords reached 4,202,180 Pounds sterling, which was the equivalent of over $20 million at the time. Ten years later, in 1944, an acre (4 Dunams) of good, fertile land in the State of Iowa cost $ 100, while in that same year Jews in Palestine were paying over $ 1,000 for an acre of parched soil.

The claim that the Arabs were being driven out was raised as early as the 1930s. This claim was investigated by the British, and rejected almost completely - and this at a time when British policy in Palestine was clearly moving from a pro-Zionist to a pro-Arab position. Two official British documents from the year 1937 deal with this claim. One is the report of the Peel Commission (Chapter 9, Par. 61), which relates that during the years 1920-1939, 688 Arab tenant farmers were removed from their land as a result of purchases made by the Jews. Five hundred twenty-six of the Arab farmers remained in some agricultural occupation, and four hundred received alternative plots of land in other locations. The second document is one of a series of memoranda prepared by the mandatory government and published in London (Colonial No. 133, p. 37). It contains the findings of the 1931 investigation of Lewis French, which totally refute the claim that the Zionist undertaking in Palestine caused the creation of "an entire landless people among the Palestinian Arabs". The memorandum notes that the total number of applications of registration as landless Arabs reached 3,271. Of these, the claims of 2,607 were rejected as not belonging to this category, and only 664 heads of families were recognized as having legitimate claims.

Approximately half this number - 347 - agreed to accept the government's offer of resettlement. The rest refused, either because they had found employment elsewhere, or because they were unaccustomed to the agricultural methods, such as irrigation, employed in the new locations, or because of other reasons. In his investigation of the hill country, where the Jewish purchases were minimal, Lewis French found that out of seventy-one Arab claims of eviction, sixty-eight were rejected (The Esco Foundation for Palestine, Inc., Vol. II, p. 716).

Finally&#8230; What was the land ownership situation when the State of Israel was reconstituted in 1948? According to the official data published by the outgoing British mandatory administration before the establishment of the State (Survey of Palestine, 1946), only 8.6% of the land was in fact owned by Jews, while over 70% was state land, which had passed from Turkish to British authority and now to Israel, the legal heir of the British Mandate. The remaining lands - 33% belonged to Arab landowners, and the Arab owners who hastened to obey the call of their leaders &#8220;to clear the way for the Arab armies, which would annihilate the Jewish State&#8221;, abandoned 16.9%. These landowners did not consider the possibility that the Jewish State would remain.

The key to the entire problem lies in that large percentage of state land, most of which was in the Negev - an unsettled area of approximately 12,557,00 Dunams, or close to 50% of the entire area (26,320,000) of mandatory Palestine. These lands had never been under Arab ownership, neither during the period of British rule nor even during the preceding Turkish regime, these were simply STATE LANDS .

The contention heard time and again from Arab propagandists - that 95% of the territory of Palestine had belonged to the Arabs - is, therefore, entirely without basis in fact...!

To those that think differently without any substantiation I say&#8230; No amount of Monday morning quarter backing is going to help your belated dreaming&#8230;
There was no ARAB country in the middle east called Palestine... the place was called the Ottoman Empire for 400 years until 1917 when the British Forces Liberated it from the Turks and received a Mandate to manage it&#8230; They governed it for the next 30 years until 1948..

The Brits recognized the right of the Jews to the Land of their forefathers...
Palestine Arab nationalism to whatever degree it is conscious ideal today, is a product of recent political currents. Until the 1920&#8217;s, no such national community had even existed in Palestine. This is why the Balfour Declaration and the League of Nations Mandates charged the Jews of the National Home with guaranteeing the civil and religious right of other inhabitants... (The Arabs, Christians, Druze, Circassians, Kurds, Armenians, Bosnians, Moghrabim [North Africans], Egyptians, Syrian, Bedouins... were the other inhabitants.)

No mention was made of other National Rights of other inhabitants..., as it was recognized that the only NATIONAL CLAIM to the Area was that of the Jews...!!

However, the FICTION of Palestine Arab Nationality is still being exploited. If the Palestinian Arabs were in fact a separate nationality, their anger should have been directed against Jordan and Egypt since these were the two countries that invaded duly &#8220;Reconstituted Israel in 1948&#8221;, and retained a substantial amount of Real Estate. (Jordan... Judea and Samaria and Egypt the Gaza area...) and never even considered creating a Palestinian Arab Entity there for nineteen years...

Now if you had an Atlas from let say from 1517 on to 1917 when the British took over... you would have noticed that the place was called &#8220;THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE&#8221; for FOUR HUNDRED years and NOTHING ELSE...!

There was NEVER a Palestine&#8230;! No independent Arab or Palestinian State ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not. In fact, Palestine is never explicitly mentioned in the Qur'an, rather it is called "the holy lands" (al-Arad al-Muqaddash)

At that time; Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted, quote:-

We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. National, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds connect us with it... Unquote.

In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria."

The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the UN submitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said, "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."

Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after 1967 Six-Day War [since the PLO was created by Egypt in 1964]... and Israel's liberation of Judea and Samaria (West Bank) from the occupying forces of Jordan.

 

Where is your SOURCE...

 

Lmao. Maybe it's in the bible.

 

I get your argument, and in a historical sense, it was true, but I think at this point, in 2014, there are Palestinians. Peoples and nations can be created. The concept of Americans was created by going through the crucible of a revolution. Before that they were just British subjects of varying ethnicities. So there may not have been Palestinians in 1947, but I would argue that there are now.

 

I have been trying to find the source for this, it quotes parts of the Peel Commission (which was set up to look at the causes of the Arab revolt). However by very selective quotation and by not including the conclusions of the Peel Commission, and intertwining with a earlier report which the Peel Commission states did not include the very large immigration from eastern europe by Jews in early 1930's. So it appears to be a hotch potch of opinion, fact taken out of context. Anyway in an attempt to shed some light on the subject here is the map proposed for the partition of Palestine as recommended by the Peel Commission.


Very different from what I think is being suggested by the OP
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/448684/Peel-Commission

 

So, if as you say, that there is "Palestinians" nowadays, why dont they refer themselves as "Palestinians"? to the world they recognize themselves as "Palestinians", but among themselves they say otherwise- a little bit odd, dont you think?

 

It has been long time not to write here, nothing changed...

Still crimes are explained with historical reasons. Still there is way to comment events as Muslim, Jewish, Christian but not as a human.
I don't give any shi* what happened thousands years ago. My responsibility is today and today Palestine is suffering, dying in front of the world.

 

My source is me, myself and all educated and knowledgeable readers.

Here is an addition to the above dissertation, this time by no other than Hillel Neuer, Executive Director of UN Watch


"If the past year you didn't cry out when thousands
of protesters were killed and injured by Turkey, Egypt
and Libya. when more victims than ever were hanged
by Iran, women and children in Afghanistan were
bombed, whole communities were massacred in South
Sudan, 1800 Palestinians were starved and murdered
by Assad in Syria, hundreds in Pakistan were killed by
jihadist terror attacks, 10,000 Iraqis were killed by terrorists.
villagers were slaughtered in Nigeria, but you only cry out for GAZA,
then you are not pro Human Rights, you are only anti Israel.
Hillel Neuer, Executive Director of UN Watch.
July 15, 2014

 

Baloney...Hillel Neuer has written something (ESPECIALLY FOR YOU) roll down you will find it.

 

Thank you for your care for the muslim protestors injured in Turkey and Egypt, on the other hand who says that we don't cry for these events.
Milions in Turkey walked aganist to government last year because 7 people died in protests and don't worry Erdogan will pay the bill sooner or later.
As the same in Egypt if his life can be enough Sisi will pay the bill. But don't forget if Israel goes on to broke the human rights it will also pay the bill.
I can't defend crimes of governments or countries which you do. I am a human and I would show the same care if Israel was at the same situation aganist Palistine.
How my ancestries made it before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

 

What do they say among themselves?

 

There are 21 x ARAB countries that were CREATED this past century... and since these Arabs are not Jews but Jew haters, murderers of Jews, thief for farm mechanical devices i.e. tractors and so forth... they have stolen umpteen Israeli cars even beehives... I humbly suggest they leave and be with their brethren in the 21 Arab countries created.