More guns - a safer USA

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by FrankCapua, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. Toxic

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    Hi Frank,

    I envy you. I am from Australia and after the false flag event at Port Arthur in Tasmania the government decided to take guns away. The was a conspiracy engineered by our government at the time, to disarm the population of Australia.
    We may need our guns, because if the situation that is happening in Atlanta, where they are treating the american patients who have this deadly virus suddenly gets out of hand and a mistake is made and the virus escapes into the community an "OUTBREAK" will occur of which the consequences of does not bear imagining!
     
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    Hard to explain a Right to Liberty to someone who doesn't have any, and doesn't want any Liberty other than what some government official tells him what Rights he has and how to use them.
    Libs really love that sex talk in an argument, ya know. It fails.................(they are usually projecting their own personal problems)

    You know................................................................ a subject.
     
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    Enough said........
     
  4. Clem

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    If one looks closely at this post they see within it that I have been maligned...there is no direct reference but it is there......Apparently I am someone who does not 'have a right to liberty'.....where does that come from.......I am not complaining and I won't complain (formally)...just wondering if anyone is paying attention....
     
  5. CourtJester

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    While that is beyond dispute, all forms of mental illness are not the same. My guess is that depression is not one of the illnesses that normally results in killing of other people. Be interesting to hear from someone with professional knowledge in this area.
     
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    Correct. A person can wake up in a pissy mood and not have the desire to go on a rampage. But another person can find their wife/husband in bed with another and go off the deep end.
    There are two ends of the spectrum when dealing with emotional stress, and there is no predictor. Most truly mentally ill people do not own guns.
    In Indiana, if you are incapacitated you are living in a home with others similar to your affliction and closely monitored and/or strictly supervised.
    However, there are those few who manage to fall through the cracks and remain at large in the community.
    I am not in favor of those types to have a weapon of ANY kind.
    No one, any professional, can predict who, what, or when someone can step off the edge.
    But to relieve all ownership until you can prove stability, is a farce and fallacious to any argument to relieve an entire nation of their Rights.
     
  7. Reality

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    wait wait wait.. .I can play this game too: And you haven't needed a gun to defend yourself or your family.... yet.

    What's good for the goose (that's you) is game for the gander (that's me)/ :clapping:
     
  8. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I always like it when an officer of the law gets it and says so.
    http://gunssavelives.net/blog/video...-themselves-after-explosion-in-violent-crime/
    Good for him!
     
  9. Bowerbird

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    Correct me if I am wrong but Sheriffs are elected and are not part of a statewide police force like we have here (our cops do rural rotations but they are all one force)

    In that case I would think this might be a case of someone saying what will get him re-elected
     
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    nope. Where I live, we've already been told, no gun seizures for the feds will occur here. And there's plenty of help outside the county police.
    You're not hinting that our police are corrupt and liars, are you?
     
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    You would be wrong

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/jared-loughner-mass-shootings-mental-illness

    Certainly a lot of family murder suicides are depression related
     
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    I know it's a repeat but bears reposting. OH and he could be saying what he believes as well. I think I'll go with that one.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/0...mes-craig-says-more-citizens-should-be-armed/
    Google if you don't like the site
    Police Chiefs aren't elected.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also, check out this site...it's a good start.
    http://cspoa.org/sheriffs-gun-rights/
     
  14. Texan

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    County Sheriffs are elected in Texas, but who are you to say that the people shouldn't get what they want? Especially considering that the 2A a Constitutional right. Elected county sheriffs are a check on an overzealous police forces.

    All power should be checked in some way.
     
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    purely a bull (*)(*)(*)(*) site. Didn't they claim that 200000 guns were stolen one year when in fact only several hundred were actually stolen according to the FBI statistics?
    So a website, based upon a lie, is a good source for Liberals...using a lie to push another lie is an intellectual failing
     
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    Actually the article while interesting does not say that people who only show signs of depression are responsible fo mass shootings. Yes if depression is combined with paranoia or schizophrenia the combination can lead to mass shootings. You will have to find a different source if you are going to claim that people diagnosed with depression only are at a higher risk to be killers.
     
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    nothing to say about police chiefs? I accept that we have point/counter point but I'm quite sure MOJO and Mayors have some bad history of lying and loss of memberships due to misleading their memberships. I haven't seen any of that in Gunssavelives and CSPOA....have you?
     
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    don't forget the Liberal's handbook, Mother Jones as a reliable source? (*)(*)(*)(*), I can't hardly stop laughing :roflol:
     
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    See what else is the problem. We do not have normal control to carry weapons in public places. I mean the situation with an open carrying a weapon. We need a strict control of weapons in public places. Why? In order to avoid confusing situations which can lead to tragedy. You can carry a weapon, it's your right. But there should be a list of public places where you will not be admitted with the weapon. So it will be safer. Let it be difficult and expensive to arrange. But it will be safer
     
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    so you say...what places are you going to add to the list of places you cannot already carry?
    We already know that schools adverize that they are fun free zones, most court house and public service offices prohibit guns.....where else?
    Or are you hinting at eliminating public carry altogether, whether it is CCW or open carry?
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=370909
     
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    Your problem is that you don't realize how many people and places citizens are already carrying...without any of your restrictions and without any issues, why would we need any restrictions?
     
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    What you talk about already exists. I cannot carry inside schools, school or professional sports venues, courthouses, secured portions of police stations, jails, and prisons, federal property, or private property with the proper notification. Other than that, I can carry anywhere I want.

    There are over 11million CHLs in America and we are doing just fine with much fewer instances of crime among CHL holders than the general unarmed public. That's 11 million people who act as a deterrent to crime just by existing. You would hand us over to criminals who will be armed regardless and emboldened by a flock of disarmed prey.

    I have served honorably in my nations military and National Guard. I have been through dozens of background checks and worked inside almost every government agency we have from the CIA to the USPS. I have carried a gun for over 5 years and not only have I never caused an accident or confusion that lead to an accident, nobody has ever seen my gun in public. Why do you want to restrict my guns?
     
  25. Logician0311

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    Really? Let's take another look at that link...
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ricans-own-guns-but-just-how-many-is-unclear/

    Did you fail to notice the quotes:
    "More than a third of Americans say they or someone in their household owns a gun."
    "A Pew Research Center survey conducted in February found that 37% of households had an adult who owned a gun — 24% said they owned a gun, and 13% said someone else in their household did."
     

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