The USA is a democracy

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  1. evince

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    thank you for agreeing with me
     
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    Again the definition of Republic from none other then Merriam Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/republic
    :roflol: :roll:



    The claim of ignorance now. :cheerleader:
     
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    You seem more concerned with winning a debate than being right.
     
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    http://politicalsystems.com/democracy.html


    Democracy In America



    Democracy is one of the oldest political form of government in the world in general, and in America in particular, in fact the Democratic party is the oldest political party in the United States, and maybe the world. A democratic political system is, according to Aristotle, characterized by freedom, of which there are two facets, ruling and being ruled. The people rule by electing the members of the government, who in turn represent the people and are in charge of ruling the nation. However, it has been argued that the notion of democracy in America was not borrowed from ancient Greece philosophers, but rather that Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and other founding fathers were inspired by the democratic political system practiced by the Iroquois. The Iroquois, a North American tribe of indigenous people, had a type of government where decisions were made through community consensus. A treaty had to be confirmed by 75% of the male voters and 75% of the mothers, otherwise it wasn’t considered binding. It is important to note that women held actually exercised real power and were able to reject treaties, declarations of war and even demote leaders.

    The democracy of America arguably started with the Bill of Rights in 1791, which contained the first ten amendments to the Constitution and warranted the people a series of rights including freedom of speech and religious practice, and also prevented the government from becoming omnipotent. The Democratic party was founded almost 40 years later, and for most of its history, it has supported liberal positions and favored farmers, laborers, laborers, labor union, as well as religious and ethnic minorities. Lately, democrats have defended more social freedoms, affirmative action, balanced budget, and free enterprise. They believe that the government should play a major role in relieving poverty and social injustice.
     
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    It sure seems that way.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The USA is a Federal Republic with a democratic form of government.
     
  7. evince

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    you just don't understand what I claimed .

    I have been saying all DAY LONG that a republic is a type of democracy.

    you agreed

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    which is a type of democracy
     
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    So now its some unknown web site that doesn't even have an author. :thumbsup: That its about us page is also its home page. :roflol: C'mon, this is getting tiring, try some reputable web sites to EVERY Historian and ALL encyclopedias and dictionaries. :roll:
     
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    If I agreed, why am I debating your claim?

    I'm telling you man, you should get checked out. I honestly think you have dementia.
     
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    a state can be a republic without being a democracy.

    the two are not mutually inclusive.
     
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    Be careful, she called them synonymous earlier. :roflol:
     
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    I disagree. We are a federal republic with an over reliance on representation and tier'd government. I would prefer a larger congress rather than a gerrymandered house composed of one member representing every 600,000 people. We need more districts, no gerrymandering, and initiative voting like in Switzerland. How much progress would we have if every decision turned down in congress could be passed by popular vote? We know the majority doesn't favor republicans in just about every poll short of gun rights.
     
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    a republic is a type of democracy.

    Its the definition of the word
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    says you. :)
     
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    says all dictionaries
     
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    go find say dictionary that doesn't say that?
     
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    ok, you win. I admit it.

    A republic is not neccessarily a democracy.
     
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    but our republic is a democracy

    glad you accept FACTS
     
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    Because you are wrong and have proven nothing.

    A democracy is rule by majority which we do not have.

    The USA is a republic that is fact and end of story.
     
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    No dictionary says the US is a Democracy. The dictionary only defined the word Democracy. :roflol: You are inferring it represents the US when it doesn't :roll: You can't really be this inept, can you? :roflol:

    But its not. :roll:

    You didn't comprehend what he said, did you. tsk...tsk...:roflol:
     
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    This is linked to a report from http://www.eiu.com/home.aspx
    So some
    is representative of facts? :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

    Your claims have now been eviscerated. Nothing you have given is representative of facts, nothing you have given is representative of the US being a Democracy as you claim. :roflol: :roflol: :roll:
     
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    We are (for the last time) a constitutional republic. It means as you have been told by almost every poster that our government votes in a democratic process on issues pertaining to the union. Citizens get to vote for elected officials in our govt as dictated by the constitution not as dictated by a popular consensus. We do this in a democratic process in 50 separate elections. The presidential election is 50 separate elections culminating on the same day. Furthermore the electoral college elects the president and vice president. Except for maine and Nebraska the states can have unpledged electors, meaning they can vote for the other guy even if the popular vote says otherwise. Even pledged electors are not bound by law to elect the candidate they pledged to.
    In a democracy the 50 state amalgamated popular vote would. The fact is, it doesn't because we are not a democracy. This forum is a republic. If it were a democracy the majority of us could ban you from the forum for disagreeing with us on such a common knowledge issue. However in its current form we have forum moderators make those decisions for us. Similar to how our Federal govt works. If the forum moderators decide to ban you it may be in a democratic process but the forum itself is not a democracy.
     
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    I have never seen an OP that has had so many posts deleted by the mods.

    And 190 or so posters are wrong while evince is the only right one? Wha? We have quoted facts to you and all you want to do is quote non-reliable sources such wiki and ehow. Who is the loony one now?
     
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    so Merriam websters is unreliable?
     

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