Why are Americans So Pro Israel

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Why are Americans so Pro-Israel

  1. Strong Jewish lobby in Washington

    28 vote(s)
    41.8%
  2. Guilt about the Holocaust

    9 vote(s)
    13.4%
  3. Revenge on Arabs for 9/11

    7 vote(s)
    10.4%
  4. Other

    40 vote(s)
    59.7%
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  1. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure. English-Americans had German ancestors that went to England back in the 5th century AD, and clearly that's why we support Israel. ^_- :eyepopping:
     
  2. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    not quite that far removed actually. What was meant is that the american census, from what igathered, there are more german-americans than english-americans. iwas very surprised as well, always thought that euro americans were mainly from britain but turns out they are mainly german. maybe im wrong, who cares.
     
  3. Ronstar

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    Americans support Israel because we favor democracy over Islamist dictatorship.
     
  4. J0NAH

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    its more to do with cronyism, akin to nepotism.
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its about ideology, and Hamas is evil.
     
  6. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    hamas isnt evil really, theyre just protecting their land.
     
  7. CJtheModerate

    CJtheModerate New Member

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    Their actions and their beliefs prove this to be false.
     
  8. J0NAH

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    theyre just protecting their land. if the chinese in china town decided to bomb up american institutions and proceed to immigrate in mass numbers then build a wall around any remaining americans and drip feed them food, im sure you would be out on the streets with your placards.
     
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    And that is important because . . .
     
  10. Ronstar

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    misogynist, homophobic, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, islamic extremists aren't evil??????????????

    lol!!!! :roflol:
     
  11. politicalcenter

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    First of all I would like to welcome you to the discussion. I see your flag is from Iran but I have no idea where Shaharoud Semnan is. But I digress. What if a person from my country bought land in your country from its rightful owner? Say I purchased the deed to land right next to you...in your country...would I be considered an occupier if I decided to build on this land and settle there?

    What if an Israeli bought land in Palestine from its rightful owner and decided to build a settlement there? Would that be considered occupation?

    I know in myown country that if I rent an apartment and the title goes from one owner to another the new owner can force me to leave.
     
  12. Durandal

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    Two reasons stand out to me.

    1. They have no choice. Both ruling parties support Israel, thus supporting either party means supporting Israel as well. Might as well like it.

    2. The idea of bad vs worse. Islam is continually propped up as a grave threat to us, whether in terms of invading our culture and eventually taking over our government, or in terms of a more immediate threat of terrorism. All of these are associated with Islam, including those ebil rocket-firing Gazan Palestinians, and so they represent the US public's worst enemy while the Israeli government works hard (even hires internet shills - yes, this is known to happen) to present Israel as our bestest buddy in the whole wide world, even though it never actually does anything of benefit to us even while taking a sizable portion of our money and spending it on the above & on warfare.
     
  13. supaskip

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    They are no threat to the west, unless you are talking politically - but that would be like saying liberals are a threat to the west. If population centres (which encourage free movement of people) gain a majority of a certain type of people (religion, political, racial) including their cultures and ideals, then that is the organic nature of the laws adopted. You can't encourage freedom and then stem it when you didn't calculate possible avenues that are not your taste. Well, I guess you can, but that wouldn't be seen as very... "west-like"... imo.
     
  14. supaskip

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    I guess no more than misogynist, homophobic, anti-Muslim, racist citizens of the US south. Thankfully they are becoming less and less, but our recent history isn't that glamorous. Perhaps the same will be true of all types like that in the future, regardless of the targets of their bigotry.
     
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    bombings in Madrid, London, France, Russia.

    riots elsewhere.

    yeah.....no threat at all.

    ;)
     
  16. supaskip

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    In which case I still don't consider these threats at all. Sure, there has been loss of life, but proportionately less than everyday chance of death from crossing a road, smoking, home grown crime etc etc. Proportionately, there has been very few attacks on the "west" that has affected our life and I for one am not worried about the next "terrorist attack". I am not going to live in fear when they don't have any chance of actually making a change to my grasp on reality.

    Riots everywhere? Over exaggerate much? There have been riots, but that is not particularly due to bombings.


    No, I certainly don't see any particular threat other than "political" of our own design.
     
  17. Tram Law

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    Ever hear of the trail of tears?
     
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    If you want to honestly know why, just watch this video for the raw truth.
    [video=youtube;BB7xY42qG74]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB7xY42qG74[/video]
     
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    We examine the situation and realize that if Israel prevails, peace is more likely in the area. If the Palestinians prevail, all the Israelis are dead.

    The Palestinians should be living in Jordan.
     
  20. Ronstar

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    that's a recipe for genocide, not peace.

    try again.
     
  21. atabitaraf

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    Politicalcenter, dear friend your flag reminds me of FORREST GUMP, remember Tom Hanks in it? So a beautiful play of him in it.
    Do you really want to say Israelis bought Palestine? First of all, the brutality seen in killing innocent civilians shows us Israel and their nature. I don't know whether or not bombarding Palestinians hospitals or UN shelters are depicted in American media or how much of their programs are spent on Israelis right. However please search even in American websites and see how much area that claimed land was. As I read it was this:
    1.55% of Palestine at the beginning of military British govt. over Palestine.
    0.64% of Palestine: Lent to Jews by the British agent.
    1.2% of Palestine: Gifted to Jews by the British military govt.
    2.31% of Palestine: bought from non-Palestinian owners.
    0.96% of Palestine: bought from Palestinian owners.
    Total area: 6.6% of Palestine.
    You don't rely on my translation or reference, please you do me a favor and tell me yours.
    Israel attempted to make a govt. not only in their little trivial land but in whole Palestine, which is not legal to make a new govt. in a foreign country although you bought a little piece of it. It is like I buy a neighborhood in Tehran and make a govt in the whole country, because I think there is no rule!
    Even the ministry of British occupation then said: Muslims have the right to oppose.
    It says: with the support of western powers Israel became able to make a war against Palestine and occupy the land of Palestine.
    Thanks for reading.
     
  22. politicalcenter

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    I don't think this conflict has ever been over Israeli people not subjecting themselves to Palestinian rule or over the refusal of Israeli people to pay taxes to Palestinian authority. I am personally against the death of innocent woman and children on any side in any conflict. But when the enemy hides his missiles in Hospitals and Schools what can you do? Any military and any government of any country should protect their people first and foremost. The Israeli military drops leaflets telling the citizens Of Gaza they are going to bomb, then drop dummy bombs (door knockers) before the first target is hit. I often wonder if Hamas wants civilian casualties in order to garnish sympathy from the rest of the world. Or they force people to stay in harms way in order to keep the death count up.

    Palestine is not yet a country...is it?

    I have also noticed from the Media over here it is always how many Israeli troops are killed, how many Israeli citizens are killed and how many Palestinian civilians are killed it ...never...ever....mentions how many Hamas fighters are killed....never. Now, either Hamas fighters and civilians are one and the same...or...Hamas wants the world to think that the Israeli army only kills civilians and never...ever... kills Hamas fighters.

    I would like to see peace in that part of the world but after generations of hatred on both sides I don't see it happening soon.

    Some of the Jews have also been in the land for generations.
     
  23. atabitaraf

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    It was not my point on it dear sir, what I wanted to say was that little population of Jews + their little land did not allow them to make a country there. Making a so-called country of Israel is on the basis of those wars against all human rights. Will you approve of that military govt? Did the west have the right to make this human hunting nation? You know what racist Israelis believe about their nation and the others?
    But to say what Hamas is doing now, I do not agree with all the details that they are doing, sometimes they are behaving like extremists but please feel sympathy with them when they are in this hardship. Human shield is another claim our enemies always say, but they don't understand that Palestine is all standing against brutality and cannot step back because it is their land. They want to say that little population that was supported with high-tech bombs supporting by the west do not have the right to continue.
     
  24. J0NAH

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    the idea that britain had a right to sell the land to israelis is a total joke, obviously. its sad that this joke was played against palestinians but that is how colonialist europeans played throughout the last 500 years. cultural collisions between ancient civilizations and barbaric european tribes.
     
  25. Ronstar

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    you don't know anything about the history of the Middle East.

    The British didn't "SELL" anything to the Jews.

    The Jews bought land from local landowners, and then conquered land with their own sweat and blood in 1948.
     

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