U.S.S. Obama Hits Immigration Iceberg

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I heard on the radio today Obama hinted at executive amnesty AFTER the mid-term election in November. There is only one way to prevent him from doing that, give the Republicans a veto proof majority in Congress. There are 21 Democrat Senate seats up in November 15 of those will give the Senate power to over ride an Obama veto. They need 27 votes in the House to get it done.

    If Obama pulls an executive amnesty after the mid-term, the only way to reverse that is to give the Republicans a veto proof majority so they can pass legislation that cancels out Obama's Executive order amnesty. When Obama veto's it the congress overrides the veto. We simply do not need millions of new workers in a job market that's tough to begin with. It's just insanity. Black (11%) and Latino (7.3%) citizens unemployment is high to begin with. What sense does it make to legalize 11+ million people when American citizens have compete for low paying jobs. It's simple supply and demand the more workers there are for each job, the pay will be lower. Less people available for each job, the wages must go up to attract workers.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Not to mention the burden placed own our public school system.

    I don't believe Obama can LEGALLY give amnesty to millions of aliens....without going through Congress. If he tries it....I think it's one of those exceptional events where the Congress could run to the USSC for a ruling. We cannot have lawless presidents like Obama who are acting like Dictators.

    We have the rule of law. And the USSC needs to protect us from this lawless man in the White House.
     
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    obama plan is to get us into a shooting war conventional type with Russia millions of natural born folks of European decent will get eliminated in that 3rd world war then repopulate the usa with 3rd worlders..
     
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    The US doesn't have a legal immigration law because Congress doesn't have the Constitutional authority to pass one. Almost everyone in the world can come to the US and stay if he wants to. People with certain passports don't even need visas. So they can simply move in although they are only supposed to stay a maximum of 90 days without paperwork. But who needs it?

    The Constitution will have to be amended if Congress wants to write a legal immigration law. Until then anyone is free to move in. They just won't become naturalized citizens but their kids born here are citizens under the current law. So if Obama wants to give them amnesty Congress can't stop him. Giving illegal aliens amnesty would be bad public policy for a number of reasons but it's not illegal to do so.
     
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    People of the Right know you cant have a lawless President no matter what his party affiliation. People of the Left think a lawless President who is a Democrat isn't lawless at all but a Republican President engaged in the exact same lawlessness would be. I believe its mostly an education problem as people on the left are largely victims of revisionist history and never learned how the Worlds worst dictators came into power.

    The USSC has unanimously booted Obama's tyrannical ass to the curb 12 times, and not nearly enough to stem the tide of his imperialism. People out there are working tirelessly to legally, keyword legally, counteract Obama's tyranny. And each time they do there is a herd of liberal halfwits crying "obstructionism".
     
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    Of course it is.
     
  7. Professor Peabody

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    If Obama does grant amnesty it will just about finish off the Democrat party, so I hope he does. We can always fix that later when the Democrats are just ornaments in Congress.

    What part of the constitution allows the president to write law at all?
     
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    Or cement x number of New Democrat voters, which has been the plan all along. The weakening of the country makes govt reliance that much easier. More reliance more govt to handle it all. That's what Dems want.
     
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    Let's be realistic, it is a tough battle for the GOP to take the Senate for which we only need a six seat pick up, and you think there is any possibility that the Republicans take all of the Senate seat elections in 2014? It isn't going to happen.
     
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    Unless you are unaware illegal aliens are in public schools. It was the USSC that ruled in Plyler v Doe
    that all children have a right to public education regardless of their immigration status or cost.
     
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    Your contention that an EO can give a person the right to vote is as ridiculous as the OP contention that the President is going to grant amnesty...
     
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    [​IMG] Fascinating discussion.
     
  13. Yosh Shmenge

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    You make a good point that should be discussed more than it is:
    democrats have painted themselves in a corner by throwing all their weight behind amnesty (though they will never be honest enough to use that word, amnesty, itself).
    The concept is very unpopular through a wide swathe of the population and now progressive clowns will see what happens when their desperate push for gifting citizenship to tens of millions of the Mexican underclass at the expense of the American middle class
    bogs down and fails.
     
  14. Professor Peabody

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    I never said I thought it would become a reality, just pointing out some facts. BTW it will only be tough if Republicans defeat themselves. They need to hammer away at the economy and Obama Care if they want to win.
     
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    You might try reading this topic Does Congress have the authority to regulate immigration? as it will dispel your notion that The US doesn't have a legal immigration law because Congress doesn't have the Constitutional authority to pass one.

    The USC does not need amendment for Congress to write "legal" immigration law. :roll: The Schooner Exchange (1812) already recognized Art1 Sect 8
    The Passenger Cases of 1849 removed any remaining immigration regulation/law from the states and gave it to the Feds, again under Art 1 Sect 8.

    Their (illegal immigrants and those here simply on non-immigrant visas to include the VWP, since there is no changing of legal domicile as required by law, they are not recognized by the state or the State to be resident within the State) children born here are merely assumed to be born US Citizens under nothing more than policy derived from the poor interpretation of the administration now in power (ignoring the Law of Domicile Somerville v. Somerville), and can be easily changed by another admin.

    It is illegal for the POTUS to do give illegal aliens amnesty without an act of Congress allowing it.
     
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    A veto-proof majority won't stop Obama who will surely wait until after the midterms to do his thing... if he's not an idiot... it's always possible that he doesn't have a strategy yet.
     
  17. Professor Peabody

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    In light of the world situation in the Middle East and Ukraine, he would be smart to leave them illegal till WWIII starts in earnest. Then offer amnesty for joining the Military. There has to be a couple of million suitable for "boots on the ground".
     
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    That's a doubled edged ICEBURG! It will make a tear in both sides of 'the boat'.
     
  19. Professor Peabody

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    Not really.

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    Even after Reagan granted Amnesty, he still only got a maximum of 37% of the Latino vote. Historically it doesn't matter for Republicans if they are in favor of Amnesty or not.
     
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    You have faith in the Supremes? Even after the Robert's fiasco with the health care mandate issue? Considering that the admin. provided him with a reason to vote the other way? Really?
     

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