Trey Gowdys unexpected Benghazi twist

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  1. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Yeah....for getting the timeline mixed up....which was not important at all. Same thing reporters did that testified, but of course, THEY didn't get convicted for lying.....because the idea was to get an administration official.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Yeah, that will look real good for Miss Hillary, won't it? I don't know....but it sounds a whole lot fishy to me to have a Sunday afternoon basement meeting where Hillary's Staff meets to go through the records that a Congressional Committee investigating has asked for.....and for the stated purposes of making sure nothing went to the Committee that would embarrass or be damaging to the 7th Floor (Hillary's floor). Wonder how many suponeas Gowdy has ready?
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Already posted a sampling of the KNOWN multiple lies, obstructions, and withholding documents by the Obama Adm.

    You trying to play Leftmem Alinski Nosense, "Just say they're 'angry' " generally doesn't work past the 6th grade, so try it on your classmates, and spare me the silliness.

    Doesn't work on me, anymore than your desperate attempts to IGNORE everything I refer to above, from the Lyingass Obama Adm., are really fooling anyone.
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Dick Morris?? The same ass hat that said Romney was gonna win the election by a landslide?? Oh dear, if he is predicting bad things for Hillary, that means she is a shoe in for POTUS now.

    Way to go Dick.
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Not a Democrat or Republican, for that matter. But I will answer your question.

    IF these allegations are true, and I mean IF....of course I would be in complete support of ANY committee to bring to justice those that broke the law.

    Now you answer my question. IF Trey Gowdy brings nothing new to the table, and I mean IF, and yet another committee goes by the wayside and the GOP is not any closer to trying to prove something that they can not....will you still support Gowdy? Or will you throw him to the dust bin like you all did Christie?
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Poor scooter lol

    That prosecutor was so partisan his next act was getting a dem governor thrown in prison
     
  7. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    First hand accounts are "talking points" to you? Do you even know what that phrase means?
     
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    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Which of those were covered up. Blamed on a video and involved weapons smuggling?
     
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    None, as not a peep was made over any of the attacks, Bush got a 8 years pass for everything that happened in his regime.

    blaming a video is irrelevant. so what if they made a mistake by listening to what the CIA told them?

    weapons smuggling is hardly unheard of, the repub God, Ronald Wilson Reagan did just that.
     
  10. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Making false statements to federal investigators.............The IRS, Benghazi and Fast & Furious come to mind.
     
  11. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Remember Scooter Libby?

    Libby was indicted by a federal grand jury on five felony counts of making false statements to federal investigators, perjury for lying to a federal grand jury, and obstruction of justice for impeding the course of a federal grand jury investigation

    They need to start with the lowest person on the food chain and work their way up with the admonishin that if they don't tell the truth and someone else does, they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and spend time in jail.

    They can start by impeaching Holder in January.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How many American Ambassadors were killed?
     
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    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Damn funny.

    Bush hardly got a "pass" he was killed Hitler and ridiculed constantly. War protests from groups such as Code Pink and Cindy Sheehan. ( i dont support Bush but i can be honest about it)

    Lying to the American people is never "irrelevant"... What did the CIA tell them? ;)

    And there was trials over it. Granted it was whitewashed and much hidden under "National Security". Reagan ( who i also dont support) Atleast came to the public and said HE was responsible. He manned up. ( granted he still lied and said he didnt know it was going on )
     
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    convicted on four charges over a timelin and sentenced to 3 years plus fine etc.? how odd.

    I guess "getting an administration official" extended to fixing a trial and tampering with the jury as well. Many those democrats sure are sneaky.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gee has anyone been charged with making false statements to federal investigators in any of those "scandals" that are top of mind with you?

    Seems Issa was just too incompetent to actually back up his spurious claims with any substantive evidence that could be taken to court.

    But of course I am not at all surprised you would think there is some equivalence despite the rather significant difference between being charged and convicted and being accused without substantiation.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    is the investigation over? you get as much evidence against the person then you charge them because the more you have the better chance of a conviction or for them to cut a deal to rat out the bigger fish
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or you drag on the investigations going over and over the same ground, never proving the accusations, but keeping the "scandal" in the news cycle for purely political purposes.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    three CIA contractors that was there the ones that defied the stand down order and went anyways contradicting the claim of no stand order givenis old news?
    Or How about the state department scrubbing documents before they was handed over to the ARB is that old news also?

    you are ignore new evidence that has recently come to light so you can keep your "old news beating a dead horse narrative alive"
    ignoring that new damming evidence doesn't make it go away. it doesn't make it not exist. I know you wish it would because you are beginning to see the writing on that wall that this is shaping up to be worse then Water Gate
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Three CIA contractors told by their on the scene boss to not rush into a situation they knew absolutely nothing about. that amounts to a stand down order in the sense that republicans have been harping about for the past two years? Not likely.

    As for the state dept "scrubbing" documents, that was not what was said. What was said was that state dept officials were sorting thru documents and cables to selectively comply with the congressional committee's request. Scrubbing implies doctoring.

    And given the wiki leaks of diplomatic cables and the damage that did, do you blame the state department for checking to ensure that no embarassing comments or covert info was released. Nah, the right has conveniently forgotten about that little poopstorm long ago.


    Oh please more idiotic hyperbole. Worse than Watergate? Worse than a president breaking the law and getting caught doing it? Worse than criminal actions by political operatives? Worse than a president being forced to resign or face criminal prosecution?

    After all this time, after all the investigations, not a shred of evidence that ANYONE did ANYTHING illegal in this tragic incident and yet somehow right wing partisans think its the worst scandal in history. so much for their judgement.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No they was told to STAND DOWN

    Benghazi Security Personnel Told To Stand Down THREE TIMES

    [video=youtube;eUukHLacAZU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=eUukHLacAZU[/video]

    but go ahead don't believe your lying eyes and ears

    “She told me, ‘Ray, we are to go through these stacks and pull out anything that might put anybody in the [Near Eastern Affairs] front office or the seventh floor in a bad light,’” says Maxwell. He says “seventh floor” was State Department shorthand for then-Secretary of State Clinton and her principal advisers.

    “I asked her, ‘But isn’t that unethical?’ She responded, ‘Ray, those are our orders.’ ”

    http://dailysignal.com/print/?post_id=157483





    Water Gate

    The affair began with the arrest of five men for breaking and entering into the DNC headquarters at the Watergate complex on June 17, 1972. The FBI connected cash found on the burglars to a slush fund used by the Committee for the Re-Election of the President (CRP), the official organization of Nixon's campaign.[3][4] In July 1973, as evidence mounted against the President's staff, including testimony provided by former staff members in an investigation conducted by the Senate Watergate Committee, it was revealed that President Nixon had a tape-recording system in his offices and that he had recorded many conversations.[5][6] After a protracted series of bitter court battles, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the president had to hand over the tapes to government investigators; he eventually complied. Recordings from these tapes implicated the president, revealing he had attempted to cover up the questionable goings-on that had taken place after the break-in.[4][7] Facing near-certain impeachment in the House of Representatives and equally certain conviction by the Senate, Nixon resigned the presidency on August 9, 1974.[8][9] His successor, Gerald Ford, then issued a pardon to him on September 8, 1974.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal

    Water Gate
    revealing he had attempted to cover up the questionable goings-on that had taken place after the break-in

    Bengahzi
    "we are to go through these stacks and pull out anything that might put anybody in the [Near Eastern Affairs] front office or the seventh floor in a bad light" ------- "those are our orders"

    Yep not similar at all

    tampering and removing of evidence during an investigation is a felony it is called spoilage of evidence look it up
    Lying to congress is obstruction of justice and contempt of congress look it up

    and one last thing no one died at Water Gate
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    was any of those falsely blamed on a you tube vid to protect the reelection bid of a president? was there a cover up after the attacks to hide incompetents and wong doing by the departments involved?
     
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    Well, since none of them sparked huge inquiries we don't know now do we.
     
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    As near as I can tell, the only folk expecting anything else are of the 'no scandal' fringe...
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean like this?

    [video=youtube;1c8XLJ9MEhk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c8XLJ9MEhk[/video]
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yup, th public has no interest...

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06/03/poll-majority-back-new-benghazi-probe/

    Don't you folk ever check your assertions?
     

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