Republican House refuses to stop Ebola

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    Obama with his pen and phone. They don't need legislation to shut down travel to and from Ebola countries, Obumble proved that wen he did it with Israel.
     
  2. Angrytaxpayer

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    Major fail!!

    http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/ebola-travel-ban-opposed-by-federal-officials-1.9470369

     
  3. ringotuna

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    Ebola is an excuse to get everyone whipped up into a frenzy. It's no more dangerous to the public health than HIV, yet nobody is freaking out demanding that we screen everyone coming from Vegas or LA.

    It's transmitted by bodily fluids. Avoid coming into contact with other people's bodily fluids. Crisis averted.

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    As far as I'm concerned you should be able to board a plane without a passport, and with a balaclava over your head for the entire trip - so long as the airline is okay with that.
     
  5. ringotuna

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    Obama's 2013 CDC budget proposal...

    http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2012/02/14/what-obamas-budget-proposal-means-for-disease-prevention/

     
  6. Hoosier8

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    That is true, but people come in contact with a lot of things daily. For instance, a study was done in an office taking samples from desks, keyboards, etc. and what they found were samples of feces which means people don't wash their hands. Easy to come into contact with other peoples stuff. The man that is sick now helped carry an ebola victim in by holding her legs. I don't think they know everything about how it can be transmitted but one thing they do is to fumigate anything and everything that the infected came in contact with.
     
  7. Steady Pie

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    Even Nigeria is having a relatively easy time dealing with Ebola, due to it being more developed than surrounding nations.

    It's a (small) problem in West Africa due to the conditions over there. Nothing like it translates to the West.

    People should be no more scared of catching Ebola than HIV - heck, less so. People with Ebola die fairly quickly and so the threat of the disease spreading is less than HIV, where infected people are all around us at all times.
     
  8. Hoosier8

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    Oh, I agree but no one wants to contract it here so the fear is only natural and a good thing though some will go overboard.
     
  9. Thehumankind

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    It would be an obligation of West Africa not to spread the disease in the first place.
    But as always it depends upon their capability to contain it and they surely need the cure and the help from the US.
     
  10. Hoosier8

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    Don't worry everybody, President Alfred E. Neuman is on the job.
     
  11. Radio Refugee

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    This is 100% in the hands of President Obola and HIS EXECUTIVE. 100 freeeeeekin percent.
     
  12. Hoosier8

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    Quarantine just isn't fair. Liberal logic 101.
     
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    Obama thinks it will hurt Liberia's economy so he wont fulfill his oath under the constitution. Just another reason to get his ass out.

    "At this point, a whole host of lawmakers are calling for Obama to restrict air travel from West Africa.

    And a petition on Whitehouse.gov to ban all incoming and outgoing flights has more than 10,000 signatures so far.

    But the White House is not moving.

    In fact, Press Secretary Josh Earnest says that there is "no consideration of a travel ban"...


    There’s no consideration of a travel ban at this point. But I can tell you that there is -- well, let me explain. There are a couple of good reasons for that. The first is there is in place a very sophisticated, multilayered screening system in place to ensure that the traveling public is safe.

    Those screening protocols begins at the point of departure; that in West Africa and these counties, under the supervision of international personnel, there are screening protocols in place to ensure that those individuals who are already exhibiting symptoms of Ebola don't board aircraft. This includes everything from a visual examination of passengers as they're preparing to board aircraft, to giving them questionnaires that they have to fill out. In other cases, it even involves taking the temperature of passengers before they board aircraft. So there is screening protocol in place even before individuals enter the transportation system.

    As with so many other things, it is hard to tell whether the Obama administration is lying, is being completely incompetent or is pursuing some sort of insidious agenda that we are now aware of yet.

    Sadly, the CDC is actually backing Obama up on this. Just check out what the head of the CDC said about a potential travel ban last week...


    Barring all incoming flights from Ebola-hit countries in West Africa might seem like the best way to prevent an outbreak of the virus in the United States, but doing so would actually hurt efforts to curb the outbreak in the long run, Tom Frieden, M.D., MPH, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said today (Oct. 2).

    “If we take actions that seem like they may work, they may be the kind of solution to a complex problem that is quick, simple and wrong,” said Frieden in a press conference. “The approach of isolating a country is that it’s going to make it harder to get help into that country."

    Of course medical personnel that are fighting this disease should be allowed to fly in and out of those countries.

    But why can't we ban all non-essential personnel from flying back and forth?

    Meanwhile, the Obama administration also continues to be negligent in guarding our southern border.

    We know that people from Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone cross our border with Mexico illegally. In fact, hundreds of such individuals from those countries were caught by border patrol agents during fiscal year 2013...


    Government figures indicate that 112 individuals were interdicted illegally crossing into the United States from Guinea, 231 from Liberia, and another 145 from Sierra Leone, the three Ebola hot spots. The period of these apprehensions was one in which we had a larger Border Patrol presence on the actual border than we do now.

    And those are just the ones that we were able to apprehend.

    The truth is that most of the people that cross our borders illegally we do not catch.

    If Obama and his minions continue to refuse to take even the most basic steps to protect us, it is inevitable that more people with extremely deadly diseases such as Ebola will enter this country and circulate among the general population.

    If our health system was ready to handle such diseases, that would be one thing.

    Unfortunately, that is not the case. In fact, one recent survey found that most nurses in the United States do not believe that their hospitals are ready to handle patients with Ebola...


    A survey by National Nurses United of some 400 nurses in more than 200 hospitals in 25 states found that more than half (60 percent) said their hospital is not prepared to handle patients with Ebola, and more than 80 percent said their hospital has not communicated to them any policy regarding potential admission of patients infected by Ebola.

    Another 30 percent said their hospital has insufficient supplies of eye protection and fluid-resistant gowns.

    This Ebola outbreak has the potential to become the greatest health crisis that any of us have ever seen.

    But Obama absolutely refuses to take even the most basic steps to keep us safe from this disease.

    Why won't Obama do something?
     
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    The CDC & The UN Are Forced to Admit That Ebola is Airborne

    Posted on October 4, 2014 by Dave Hodges


    The United Nations is preparing the world for an overt admission that Ebola is airborne. Anthony Banbury, the United Nations’ Ebola response chief warned of the “nightmare scenario” that Ebola is possibly now, and probably soon will be an airborne pathogen. This is precisely what I reported when I cited several peer review studies which demonstrated that Ebola was already known, by many researchers in the scientific community, to be airborne.
    http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/10/04/cdc-un-forced-admit-ebola-airborne/
     
  15. Ctrl

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    I wish people understood how their country worked.
    The Secretary of HHS is empowered to prevent travelers from anywhere based on public risk from disease. This power is derived from A1 S8 C3. It is enumerated under section 361 of the PHSA. Not just flights, but travelers. There is an existing structure to handle exactly this, and it is under the auspices of the executive branch. The president can at any time direct the Secretary to prevent entry to this country coming from Liberia, without the need to unilaterally pen new laws.

    He just wont.
     
  16. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why should Obama give in to irrational, partisan-driven fear?
     
  17. Oldyoungin

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    .... If it is irrational , partisan driven fear why do you want the house to do anything ( even though its now been explained its not in their court to you ) ???
     
  18. perdidochas

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    This is the kind of thing executive orders are for, why isn't Obama ordering this?

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    Not all, bro. The only bills that have to originate in the House are bills involving raising revenue (i.e. increasing taxes). Please learn basic civics before you blather on and correct other people. Google is your friend.
     
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    An EO isn't even necessary. The executive branch already has the power to do this at the snap of a finger.

    Second point is, of course, spot on.
     
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    Touching an Ebola victim without gloves, etc., involves their bodily fluids. There is no indication that Ebola spreads easily by touching stuff that Ebola victims had touched.
     
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    [OP] Republican House refuses to stop Ebola

    Federal officials cast doubt on Ebola travel ban
    Associated Press
    By MARK SCOLFORO
    Looks like it's not really the GOP that's not doing anything about carriers entering the U.S. but more the Prezzy Administration standing in the way. Amongst whom, obviously, the OP is not considered an expert.
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  22. Ctrl

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    Democrats aren't afraid of infectious disease? Ebola specifically?

    News to me. I thought your original post said "Democratic Senator Shumer has called on the FAA to do extra screening of all passengers from West Africa".

    Oh... it did. Neat.

    Keep digging. Starting to get good.
    :popcorn:
     
  23. Hoosier8

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    Yet doctors using those precautions get infected, possibly by touching their own protective gear wrong? If so that means it could be transmitted by surfaces in the short term.
     
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    I would suggest rather than wasting our time (and your own) with what you seem to consider witty comments attempting to poke fun at your own President....you instead read up on the actual agencies that are charged with public health, disease prevention, transportation, and customs....etc....

    I find it interesting that the same people griping about The President enacting actions through executive order because he does not have the power to act on his own otherwise....for some reason attribute great powers to him whenever there is a problem.
     
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    Very unlikely. Close enough and I believe him. He is infallible. Praise our the name of Obama
     

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