Another reason I love the Tea Party.........

And you need to use some common sense here. The people are not politicians, we have neither the time nor the resources to formulate legislation which is why we have a representative government. Tell me, do you write all democratic policy and submit it to your lawmakers so they can present it to Congress?

No?

Then why are you making that ridiculous claim of the Tea Party than? [/quote]

Fascinating.

So, if tea partiers disagrees with some social or foreign policy legislation proposed by the guy that they elected to cut taxes and reduce government, but that rep is actually working on cutting taxes and reducing government, they would not follow blindly and "turn on them in a second"? I mean its not like there aren't a gazillion other issues besides fiscal restraint and reducing government services to deal with in the Government of the worlds last remaining superpower.

How didn't realize how dismally narrow tea partiers vision is.


you don't seem to be able to discern the difference between an party platform and legislation. I wasn't talking about translating the promises into detailed legislation I was talking about TELLING THE NATIONS VOTERS WHAT AND HOW THEY WOULD FULFILL THEIR ELECTION CAMPAIGN PROMISES. I believe it might have an positive effect with garnering votes from discerning voters and expanding the tent.

Seems battle of the bumpersticker sound bites is what politics has been reduced to these days, and to hell with explanations designed to help evaluate the merits of a platform. And the right accuse the left of being low information voters.

Someday I hold out hope that both the pot and the kettle will be cleaned and neither can be called black.





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What a remarkable political phenomena. hard core narrow ideology uber alles and take your pick over everything else.

I guess the tea party is analogous to a " Washington lobby company" , except its just ordinary citizens who vote for the group;s endorsed candidates. Funny how they are all under the republican banner tho.

 

So its just a bunch of conservative republicans using the power of the collective tea party organizations to push an purely economic agenda with zero consideration to the impact of it, thereby not having to consider or explain what a massive social re-engineering project would result.

wow.

 

Once again.............per the tea party:

Angry, bitter and dependent on the government is no way to spend your sunset years.

 

It's not possible to get elected without a D or R platform, that's just a bitter fact. The Tea Party sees more pros vs. cons in the Rep party financially speaking at least.

 

Fascinating.

So, if tea partiers disagrees with some social or foreign policy legislation proposed by the guy that they elected to cut taxes and reduce government, but that rep is actually working on cutting taxes and reducing government, they would not follow blindly and "turn on them in a second"? I mean its not like there aren't a gazillion other issues besides fiscal restraint and reducing government services to deal with in the Government of the worlds last remaining superpower.

How didn't realize how dismally narrow tea partiers vision is.


you don't seem to be able to discern the difference between an party platform and legislation. I wasn't talking about translating the promises into detailed legislation I was talking about TELLING THE NATIONS VOTERS WHAT AND HOW THEY WOULD FULFILL THEIR ELECTION CAMPAIGN PROMISES. I believe it might have an positive effect with garnering votes from discerning voters and expanding the tent.

Seems battle of the bumpersticker sound bites is what politics has been reduced to these days, and to hell with explanations designed to help evaluate the merits of a platform. And the right accuse the left of being low information voters.

Someday I hold out hope that both the pot and the kettle will be cleaned and neither can be called black.





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What a remarkable political phenomena. hard core narrow ideology uber alles and take your pick over everything else.

I guess the tea party is analogous to a " Washington lobby company" , except its just ordinary citizens who vote for the group;s endorsed candidates. Funny how they are all under the republican banner tho.[/QUOTE]

The Tea Party is not a national party, they ARE a focused movement and that focus is on fiscal conservatism.

What part of that do you not get?

Do you blame the Civil Rights Movement for being focused on civil rights?

What an idiotic way to find fault with the Tea Party. Liberals see the word "party" in the moniker and thing we are an actual party. That shows just how little they understand about what we actually are.

It simply amazes me.

 

Always lose what? With one exception the full slate of state wide candidates in Texas is endorsed by the TEA Party. Exception *George P Bush - grandson of of GHW, nephew of GW, son of Jeb

 

Yeah lol Texas hahaha and we have seen what they elected do you want to talk National

 

Mr. Synonym, as usual, I am dead on the money.

 

You seem to be getting smarter.

 

Yea, just look at the economy in Texas.

It's plain to see You don't have the slightest clue.

You are a lost ball in high weeds.

 

The sad part of this, is people like her, live in a nonreality. It is a delusion for this republic that she thinks is alive, is actually dead. The Tea Party cannot change that, for what happened to the TP will happen to any movement that tries to use the political system to bring change. The oligarchy will eat them up, delude them, and the status quo will not be changed.

 

You talking about their economy that is creating non living wage jobs, which puts a burden on us taxpayers that must take up the slack?

I would imagine texas is like most red states that suck more from the pubic trough than they contribute. You really got a winner in texas.

 

LOL...

That is so opposite of their positions and voting practices. Tea party supporters are not naive enough to believe such lies if they did a 180.

 

Has the tea party discussed the ramifications of the drastic social engineering required to meet their twin primary objectives? has anyone developed any models for what would happen when the social programs slough off tens of millions DESERVING people to satisfy getting rid of the miniscule % of abusers? Or what will happen when children actually do go to school hungry and come home hungry?

I hear a lot about the tea party et.al. wanting to slash the safety net to get rid of the freeloaders. It seems to be a central focus of this "fiscal responsibility" pledge that NO modern republican government has ever been able to accomplish. Where will the higher paying jobs come from to employ the millions of people who currently depend on safety net to make ends meet and put food on the table ? In fact where will all the jobs needed to employ the underclass come from?

Or will it be - laissez faire with mobs on the streets fighting over scraps of bread and cardboard for their homes. Seems many tea partiers are not at all concerned with those "below" them in the socio-economic strata.

reminds me of the pro-lifers who think all pregnancies should be brought to term, but couldn't care less that the mother might not be able to support that child because social programs are fiscally "irresponsible".


You are damn right tea partiers must side with republicans. Democrats won't abide by such outrageous social engineering where the "victory" is measured in tax rates and balanced budgets with any consideration of the devastation caused to both the poor AND the economy.
I don't doubt that many social programs and processes could stand gigantic improvements, but small business would be devastated by the few tens of billions of dollars that would NOT be spent by the economic underclass. How would all that revenue be replaced? You think the economy can immediately generate 20 or 30 million jobs?

I don't think anyone is against lower taxes for some and a smaller more efficient government, BUT the "devil's in the details" as they say and until somebody can actually express a comprehensive and cohesive plan that will anticipate and mitigate the impact of such dramatic structural and economic changes to society, I will view such political bumper sticker ideology as naïve and short sighted.

I won't hold my breath waiting for a tea partier to explain what will happen when as taxcutter suggested all of the "war on poverty programs" are eliminated in the name of fiscal responsibility. Always enough money for guns, but not enough money for milk. And tea partiers seem perfectly happy NOT to consider the extremely negative consequences that accompany the positive ones.

 

Finding fault with the tea party isn't all that hard.

While most thinking people will agree that lower taxes for them is good and better governmental fiscal management and smaller more efficient government are all good things.

Seems there are lots of people who don't understand the tea party. apparently once you get passed its core uniting principles, many in the "movement" say the "darndest things". It is these kooks that help to distort what the tea party is and what it stands for. IOW, the very fact it isn't a party with a comprehensive platform and ideology, is a huge problem which can be seen in the steep decline in support for it over the past four years.

 

Flip that first statement of "deserving" around first of all. I'm not in any way shape or form responsible for people who can't make their ends meet. I've made mine meet during my life without ever taking a penny from other taxpayers who work for their living, it's not unreasonable to ask for others to use self responsibility.

Second, Democrats couldn't give a rats ass about any poor person who's only means of income is through my tax dollars. They see them as slaves who's votes are forever bought to their party. Don't lie to me, and more importantly to yourself and say that you guys actually care about poor people well being.

The Democrats have bet their short careers (in the grand scheme of things) inside the beltway on being Santa Claus to all those ignorant enough to believe how "compassionate" they are.

The problem is that you will run out of other people's money, it's a historical and mathematical certainty.

 

Your assuming we want everything changed tomorrow and that is not the case. It will take decades to responsibly unravel the mess that the democrats and republicans have made.

We will settle for that debt clock trending down instead of up however. Do you think you could manage that somehow?

What it sounds like your saying is that there is absolutely no way to fix our spending, social programs absolutely can not be reduced or fixed....it simply is not possible.

A very defeatist attitude.

 

You're a real buzz kill.

I hope you're wrong.

 

You are ate up.

Look it up.

 

What about the ramifications of the direction were headed?

It can all be vastly improved without anyone going hungry.

Jobs for the underclass is all we seem to have right now.

Real Jobs that help America are created by individuals, take

the boot of the government off their neck and the jobs will come.

And yes this can be done without killing the planet.

You're funny, democrats are all about nut bag social engineering.

There's no doubt TP common sense ideas like a flat tax or a fair

tax & cutting waste would go a long way in improving this nation.

 

In 5 years the tea party will be an answer on Jeopardy.


Good riddance.

 

calm down godwin

 

Or we won't have Jeopardy, because our country will be in ruin if democrats keep rolling us down the hill of destruction

 

Common Sense will always be around.

But it does seem there are many who have none.

 

Is it not true?

Why do you want to support a dictator?

What about when this sort of thing is aimed at you?