US Airways slammed after flight attendant refuses hang Army Ranger's uniform jacket

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  1. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? Post the evidence that it says that in the US Airways rule book that a flight attendant has no discretion who's coats can be hung, especially after first class passengers asked if they could switch seats?
     
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    One can serve this nation without putting on the uniform. And I have served my nation, honorably.Took the same oath as you. Was upheld to a higher standard that you cannot even follow. So, don't give me this political superiority complex BS.

    you enjoy attacking other people and groups, yet are completely dumbfounded when an attack in on you. You still have not figured that out yet, have you Billy?> Want to know why? It is because you want your opinion to be expressed and only your opinion without any different opinion. That is what you want. And that is why everyone you speak, evcer time you post, you soil the uniform you wear and the uniform others wear.

    You claim I don't know you, yet you claim you know "liberals" and people like me. Do you know how hypocritical that statement really is. Do you know how insipid it makes you look? Do you know that violates everything the uniform and the flag stands for and why you do not hone the flag or the military with rants like this.
     
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    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    He had an article 15 hearing and immediately left the service. Yes, the Bush Aministration wanted this to go away quickly and quietly. And it did. Yet, you cannot deny that Lt Col Allen West violated his orders, committed conduct unbecoming, and left the service. He is still a dishonorable man no matter what that paper says.
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, so I criticize liberals for how they treat our military, and you being the typical liberal, you personally attack me. One more time you example the intolerance of liberals against someone who disagrees with them.

    How childish can you be trying trump my service, grow up.
     
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    That's retarded, fire the attendant, and export her to ISIS.
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow, an artical 15? That's like a parking ticket. West was honorably discharged, and you haven't a clue to what it's like in combat. Your comments are fed to you from those left loon websites, which you ingest with pleasure
     
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    Speaking of which, I just got a retarded idea...

    What if we make a deal with ISIS to export to them every lawyer and/or judge to make a non-God decision.

    Theoretically you could stall them, but actually they've got a super-leader so wired into the depression and bad management of their economy it's not going to care if you kill him.

    The way you get them is through their women. I'm mormon so I know about multiple female handling.

    Either Satan is in charge of all the fictional money of the world, in which case Jews have to take the blame (or at least the credit of having thought of it) or you *could* reintigrate Jews by letting them fix it. They already covered themselves with nukes, so now your retardation is not knowing how to do business.

    Let every civilization take their retards and drop them onto antarctica, each with enough to theoretically survive. Make global survivor TV out of watching how enemy nations dump prick survivors on Antarctica on seeing who survives best thus presenting who's bad guys are the greatest killer (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s.
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I couldn't agree more. :smile:
     
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    Are you racist? Are you picking on him because he is a Black REPUBLICAN? Why don't we talk about the Liberal poster child------Bowe Bergdahl who Obama tried to make out a "hero"?
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He can't talk about that for fear of exposing his support for 5 of the most vicious murderers on planet earth that Obama just let go free
     
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    I read this whole thread, and nowhere could I find anything saying that the flight attendant refused his jacket because he was in the military. I found nothing (other than the OPs assertion) that says she did it because she "hates the military". Maybe she hates...men! Maybe she heard the soldier make a liberal comment and she hates liberals. Maybe the soldier was ogling her. Maybe she was just a crappy stewardess. But I've seen no evidence that she would have hung his coat up if the same man was dressed in a suit and tie instead of a military uniform.
     
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    So we're just assuming that the flight attendant is lying? Cause in the article you posted, she said it was the airline policy.
    Oh right I forgot we're assuming she's a LIEberal for convenience.

    Where's your evidence that a first class passenger offered to switch seats? That's not in the article posted in the OP.
     
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    I believe the main theme of this thread is that the military tends to get accommodated wherever they go. Even if it means bending the rules a bit. In this particular case the military member did not get accommodated which is why there is a topic about it.

    No rules in society state that the military HAS to get special privileges, but in a country that tends to give them special privileges it sort of looks bad when a company doesn't.

    Like I said this isn't really much different than a company who doesn't offer a military discount. Whenever I go out shopping I ask if the company gives a military discount. If they don't then 9 times out of 10 the manager will come over and give me one anyway. Not necessarily because they "care", many do care, but because they don't want to be "that" company who doesn't accommodate the military when most other companies do.

    In a world where most other airlines look the other way when passengers swap first class seats with military personnel, it looks bad when US Airlines has an employee that refuses to let them do that.
     
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    You have no idea what political ideology the lead flight attendant has. She may be non committal when it comes to politics. She my be an independent, a Republican, or Democrat. No one knows, not even you. But you ASSume she is and that is where your problem lies.

    And that is your problem. You make grandiose generalized statements about a group of people that you know nothing about, not care to know anything about while at the same time dehumanizing the group, putting them down, or just outright lies and propaganda to fortify that superiority complex of yours. And then you are surprised when the same things happens to you?
     
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    Hell no. I am picking on him because he violated the oath he took, he soiled the uniform he wore because he violated his orders, broke the chain of command, conduct unbecoming an officer, and violated the rules of engagement and thus committed war crimes. He was , in effect, a bad officer.

    But because of politics, he went through an article 15 hearing rather than an article 32 hearing. If he went through the articie 32 hearing, he would not have gotten a discharge, but a dishonorable discharge after serving time in Fort Leavenworth. Although I accept the judgement of the military court, it sill does not negate the fact that he did what no officer should do in a time of war unless orders were given to him directly though the chain of command.

    As for President Obama, there is criticism of his actions, but most of it would have or has been done by his predicessors. But lto the Tea Party, it is news to them and that is why they all failed history, or simply ignore it for political reasons.
     
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    No, I happen to know the JAG officer who presented the government's case to the military court for that article 15 hearing. Nothing left or right about it. He was relieved form his leadership post as a result of the Article 15 hearing. As such, he received a discharge, not an honorable discharge for his actions. And everyone knew that his military career was over. He tried to justify his actions with lives. Try ot say the ends justify the means. But that is not how the military works nor how rules of engagement work.

    By me telling you this, it means you were never in Combat, not real combat.
     
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    I don't even understand how this kind of thing gets out. Who runs to the media over a jacket? This is a big deal over, literally, whether there are wrinkles in a service-members jacket or not. Whether the flight attendant let him or not shouldn't matter. It's a freaking jacket. Get over it and move on. Maybe if she had been a total (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) to him, I could understand...but I haven't seen anything indicating that that was the case.
     
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    The Repubs never wanted to charge the guys with crimes and send them to courts. Any lawyer worth his salt would have forced the government to either try them or to give them legal status as official POWs with all of the rights under the Geneva Convention, including being paid during their time of confinement.
     
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    The cited article doesn't say who reported the incident to the media. Maybe the Soldier did it or maybe the passengers did it. Either way it shows that people are willing to raise a stink when they are being mistreated or when they see someone else being mistreated. And that's a good thing, isn't it? After all, we get on school kids for being bullies and that's what the flight attendant was doing so her actions became a hot topic.
     
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    I understand that, and it is no doubt the reason that the original article was written. But the OP goes further than the article does, and I was just pointing out that Billy's interpretation of the event appears to be based on nothing more than his own bias. When a company known for crappy service gives crappy service, it is a non-sequitur to say, "therefore the stewardess was a military-hating liberal".
     
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    It's all over the internet, and to answer your question about her being a liberal, you can know for sure she is not a conservative, which would leave her to be a liberal or an anarchist, both have a problem with our military.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/airline-apologizes-flight-attendants-treatment-soldier/story?id=26157977

    The flight attendant didn’t have the same reaction, however, and Autrey said that she became "quite emphatic,” reportedly saying that the closet was used only for first class passengers. She also put an end to Autrey’s offer to switch seats with the soldier.
     
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    And there you go again with not being able to deduce what the odds are that she is in fact a liberal. Conservatives don't treat soldiers with disrespect, or burn the American flag, liberals or anarchists do

    And please stop your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about there is something wrong or different with me, because you can know your liberal loon brethren on this forum have called conservatives racist, homo-phobes, and terrorists. There are thousands of pages of evidence that says I am spot on right
     
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    Class warfare is wonderful. On the Titanic, the class division locked up the poor so they would not interfere with the elites deserting the ship like rats.

    I refuse to fly these days. The last time I flew, people dressed up like they were going to church, you could smoke on planes if the no smoking light was not on, and you were treated like they were glad you were flying with them. LOL. I listened to my ex wife talk about flying to L.A. a few years ago, and she said it reminded her of how we used to herd cattle onto trucks to take them to the meat processing plants.

    Anybody got a time machine I can pay to go back to more sane times? I would give all of my assets to buy a ticket for that. I am a sane man, living in an insane America, surrounded by utter idiots. I am old, and don't mind dying for I am sick and tired of what the cons and the libs turned my country into. I am sick of living in this oligarchy, where insanity is the rule rather than the exception.
     
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    I flew a "Charlie model gunship", in Vietnam, so again you don't know Jack (*)(*)(*)(*) about me, because I saw combat everyday for an entire year. It again appears you still don't know Jack about the military, if West didn't get an honorable discharge, he would have gotten a general discharge, please post your evidence.
     
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    Well since it would have been near impossible to gather evidence on any of these gitmo terrorists, trying them in court seems to be an absolutely stupid thing to do. But alas, Obama solves it by just letting them go

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    Flying today is nothing more than being on a Greyhound Bus with wings.
     
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