GOP taking charge, is eager to move on Keystone XL, taxes

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    To all you lefties who labeled the Republican congress as the do-nothing congress should be ashamed of yourselves.

    Any reasonable sane person knows that it was Harry Reid that shelved nearly all 200 GOP bills.

    And finally, unfortunately after the election, the extreme left-wing AP reports that fact.

    Starting in January, all of these GOP bills will make it to Obama's desk and for once in his life Obama will actually have to make a decision all by himself and either sign or veto these bills and he won't be able to vote "present" like he did as senator.

    GOP taking charge, is eager to move on Keystone XL, taxes
     
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    Thank god that fruitcake Reid has lost his power. He was a menace to liberty and freedom.
     
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    So he vetoes it and they become tabled again because they don't have 2/3rds vote...? More show and no go.

    Reid didn't send them too him because he knew that they would just be vetoed, Obama is not going to sign them. He will stand on his environmental pledge and dems will love him for it.

    It is understandable why this bill is a priority, since republicans were already bought off to push the bill. If they can't bring it to a reality, their credibility will be shot.
     
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    Reid didn't take the bills up for a vote because he's a radical leftist bent on shielding Obama from making the tough decisions that may come back and bite him later. Now Obama has no such stooge in the Senate, and will be 100% responsible for whether these bills live or die. When he starts vetoing everything it'll make the Dems lose a lot of credibility, since they have been complaining about obstructionism for 4 years and just heard Obama say how he wants to "get things done".
     
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    Obama will nullify all the gains from Keystone if carbon credits become a reality.

    Fortunately Sen. Inhofe is now chairing the Environment Committee (that oughta be interesting).... :)
     
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    He's is just like the extremists on the other end of the political spectrum. 'Getting things done' is code for doing things the way my corporate master demands. He most likely will maintain his environmental pledge. If he doesn't it is because his corporate masters have given him the OK to go against his democrat persona.

    I don't see it happening, but if it does it certainly won't be because of what the majority of the population believes should be done.
     
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    Just begin de-funding portions of the EPA.
     
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    as long as republicans BOTH give and take, I have no issue with it, what are republicans going to give in return for the pipeline?

    republicans do not have the power to do nothing but "take", that is a fact, both parties are in equal control, they have to work together now

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    Only one problem the Keystone Pipeline will not create much in the way of jobs and will provide no energy of the US, it will simply deprive some Americans of their property to give it to a private company and the few long term jobs will be for a handful of technicians to service the line and many of them probably already work for the company. I hope it is Vetoed by the President and since we know the Cons cannot override it that will be that.
    Taxes, at least the ones mentioned in the article, I hope they are repealed, now that would be a step in the right direction.
    The EPA regulations are another story, while I am against pollution spewed out by coal burning plants to would have to see more info on the individual cases to see if we are talking real pollution reduction or if we are talking about simply more money in the pockets of Big Business.
    How could anyone label the Republican Congress as do nothing since they were not in full charge, they will be in a couple of months and then we will see what they can or cannot accomplish. I did agree with what was stated in the article, and even Palin said, the American People are expecting results and if they do not see them in the next 24 months the GOP will very likely lose the gains of this weeks elections. Let's all hope for the best.
     
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    do republicans have that power, Obama has to sign any bill into law, democrats in congress have to help repubs get to 60 votes

    republicans get to decide what is voted on, they do not get to pick which bills pass or are signed into law all on their own

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    Just curious what gains would Keystone provide?
     
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    Completely false. There are 3 co-equal branches of Government, and Republicans control 2 of them. The two parties are NOT in equal control.
     
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    The president is the leader of the country who you-all blame for everything wrong in the economy. His policies are the ones that have been sabotaged and obstructive.

    When you're willing to take responsibility for the economy then we can talk about passing your bills.

    It's like Clinton. The Republicans pushed repeal of Glass-Seagal, and Clinton signed it, but now he's forever blamed for repealing it.

    Obama should be wary of the same thing.
     
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    The GOP offered no jobs bills.
     
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    So one house of Congress is 100% responsible for the state of the economy, in your opinion?

    You've been complaining about obstructionism for 4 years, why would you support obstructing Congress now pending their "taking responsiblity" for the economy? Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

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    Have you checked Harry Reid's desk?
     
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    How on earth did you come up with that?

    Not at all. We know the Republicans will blame Obama for whatever is wrong for the economy.
     
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    That's an absurd characterization. Clinton supported the repeal and has defended it. He didn't have his arm twisted.
     
  18. Brewskier

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    Because of what you said. Words have meaning:

    Since Republicans controlled the House and not the Senate, which House of Congress could you be referring to?

    So that makes you consistent in supporting obstructionism after 4 years of complaining about it? So you were against it before you were for it?
     
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    http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/10/bill_clinton_defends_deregulat.asp#!

    Doesn't sound like he was bullied into it, at all.
     
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    I said nothing of the kind.

    What on earth are you babbling about?
     
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    yes, but they do not control them enough to only "take", sorry, your party is going to have to work in a bipartisan way if they want to pass anything

    if you thought different, you were wrong

    it takes 60 votes to beat a filibuster, you need dem votes
    it takes the President signing a bill into law, you need dem support there too

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    Don't mind him, he does that a lot here, simply keep on walking on to the next post.
     
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    So we both agree that you were wrong when you said that "both parties are in equal control", right? I just want to be clear on that point.
     
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