Harry Reid- GOP Suggestions Of Government Shutdown "Scary"--

By Ramsey Cox

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) warned Republican leaders not to listen to members in their caucus calling for yet another government shutdown in an effort to thwart President Obama on immigration.

“Republican leaders want to work together to keep the government funded,” Reid said on the Senate floor Monday. “We’ve heard there will be no government shut down, but some in their caucus are saying some scary things.”

Some Republicans have suggested blocking a long-term funding bill to keep the government open unless it contains language preventing presidential executive orders on immigration.
Lawmakers have until Dec. 11 to pass a funding bill to prevent another government shutdown. Last year, Republicans caused a government shutdown for nearly two weeks over the funding of ObamaCare.

“Sadly though we’ve seen this before — the government has been shutdown,” Reid said. “How is it possible that there is even talk of not funding our government — again?”

Reid said he hopes GOP leaders can stand up to “Tea Party radicals” who intend on "holding our government hostage.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-acti...-suggestions-of-government-shutdown-are-scary


Now, what Reid is doing here is obvious....he's goading Boehner and McConnell into two NASTY options-

1. Mitch and John side with the Far Right/Tea Partyers and shutdown the Government over an executive action by the President on immigration. Which naturally will result in the same thing that happened to Republicans the LAST time they shutdown the Government......record low approval polls and eventually caving.

And all of this before Boehner and McConnell have even really gotten started in their new roles as the Congressional Leaders. (New for Mitch anyway).


2. Boehner and McConnell IGNORE the Far Right/Tea Party and don't shutdown the Government.

The Base then gets disheartened at the least....more likely angry....possibly even rebellious. And again, Mitch and John see their Leadership start to collapse even before it's gotten started.


This is no credit to Reid, mind you. He's simply taking advantage of the "built-in" internal civil war of the Republican Party....a civil war that was on a temporary truce after their victory two weeks ago.....but is now rearing its head again.

 

Harry Reid said it? then that is all I need to know to know it is bull (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

So Boehner and McConnell WILL shutdown the Government over an Obama executive action over immigration???

 

Harry Reid is SCARY!!

New Democratic tactic alert--------FEAR-MONGERING to score political points!

 

Don't know, but Maybe they should! Obama shouldn't be allowed to run roughshod over the entire nation enacting unpopular executive actions at his whim.

 

"Don't know"? Either they are going to do it....to "scare dumb ol' Harry Reid"...


or they AGREE with Reid that a Government Shutdown is a scary thing.

There is no third option for Boehner and McConnell.

I personally hope they ignore Reid and shutdown the Government....it worked out soooooo well for them the last time.

 

That's an old Democratic tactic, and judging from the results of this year's mid-terms, it's not working well at all...

 

Why not pass a funding bill with language in it that says the president's executive orders do not allow him to pass action on immigration.

It will pass both the house and the senate and then the president will be faced with vetoing the funding for the government or passing the language that says he doesn't have the right to use his EO's to pass action on immigration.

 

And yet, it ALSO resulted in the GOP having its lowest approvals ON RECORD....28%.

Something I think McConnell and Boehner remember quite well.

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Again, I hope McConnell and Boehner show Reid how wrong he is....and DO engage in a Government Shutdown.

Naturally, they won't AGREE with Reid.....Mitch and John are true-blue conservatives who know that the American people will support and love them for shutting down the Government...again.

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He threatens to veto the bill....or does veto it. The veto won't be over-ridden and the bill dies.

What's the next move? Like in October 2013, Boehner and McConnell let the Government shutdown and HOPE that the Republicans don't get any blame for it???

 

The Republican's and Democrat's are playing you guys like a fiddle.

There will not be a government shut down. Just go about your business.

 

Of course there won't. McConnell has CLEARLY SAID numerous times he won't allow a Shutdown.

But Reid is poking at McConnell (and Boehner) with a stick.....pushing them to either stick to that and anger the Tea Party/Far Right....

or suicidally change their minds and do what the Tea Party/Far Right want.

Again, no big "brilliance" on Reid's part....anybody could see the bind Mitch and John are in...and use it against them.

 

Reid's been wrong about a lot of things lately. Don't hold your breath waiting for McConnell and Boehner to prove the George Costanza of the United States Senate wrong.

 

Most of government spending is mandatory anyhow, so there is no such thing as a "government shut down", and not a snowball's chance in a hot place that we would ever default on the debt. So it all comes down to funding the discretionary spending in bits and pieces.

So step one is to negotiate with Obama on getting the Defense Budget passed (more-or-less give him what he wants), and maybe a few others like education or whatever. But wherever it is that immigration funding is, you leave that till last. Then you send it to the President with the toughest language possible that no monies will be spent on his EO. And when Obama vetoes it, who cares, it stays vetoed until 2017; and there is still no funding for the EO.

Two things you always keep out of the package (until the very end), ObamaCare funding and the EO funding. Leave those till last.

It's a chess game, and until the Republicans figure out how to play it, they will always end up on the short end of the stick.

 

That's correct but then when the government gets shut down, it will be blamed on Obama and the democrats because the Republicans passed a bill to fund the government. The PRESIDENT vetoed the funding of the government which forces a shutdown.

Furthermore, after the president vetoes the bill the republicans will put it back up for a vote and force the democrats to vote against it.

Won't be able to blame it on the republicans and the blame for the government shutdown will fall squarely on the back on the president and the democrats. For the SOLE PURPOSE of engaging in policy that the VAST majority of americans do not want... legalizing illegals.

If that happens the democrats will get murdered in 2016.

 

LOL remind us again why anyone would take advice from such an accomplished legislator as Harry Stonewall Reid.

And I love it when "progressives" pretend they want to give conservatives advice because the progs care so much about Republicans and don't want to see R's get hurt.

Reid is scared, just like all the progs. They are scared the conservatives might actually be conservative and put the progs in the outhouse for decades.

 

Obama can decide to sign the budget and keep the Government open or veto it and shut the Government down. Is there some part of that you don't understand?

 

They can't help it, Talon.

Either Boehner and McConnell WILL shutdown the Government...and according to its supporters...the American people will support and love the GOP for doing it. And thus prove Reid wrong.

OR Boehner and McConnell WON'T shutdown the Government because they find it scary, too...just like Reid.

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Is that what happened in October 2013?

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You mean exactly like it happened in October 2013?

What DID happen then? What happened to the "love and support" for the GOP by the American people? What did Boehner and McConnell DO then?

Oh, but let me guess...."It'll be different THIS time!!!!".....right???

 

That's a laugh after 6 years of "the sky is falling" from the republicans.

 

I don't see Boehner and McConnell taking the bait, Cap'n, and I think Obama may regret blowing the opportunity of getting a comprehensive immigration bill put on his desk before his term expires. If all he wants to see for the next two years is a raft of GOP-sponsored legislation (much of which has been stalled by Reid to shield the president from making unwanted decisions) then he's going to get exactly what he wished for and then some. The #BOWDOWN MSM will have quite a task on its hands trying to spin his obstructionism in the face of the majority of Americans who want the GOP setting the country's agenda.

Majority in U.S. Want GOP in Congress to Set Nation's Course
http://www.gallup.com/poll/179339/majority-gop-congress-set-nation-course.aspx

Personally, I don't think Obama is as politically astute as he thinks and pretends he is. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out...

 

Do you think Harry, Nancy...and the Prez are even believable anymore?

 

Oh except the Nation losing Billions of dollars, throwing the government under Sequester Rules which cut spending on social and other programs and denies out of work Americans extended unemployment benefits, along with a long list of other impacts. Not to mention what it does to the credit rating of the Nation. Nope the shutdown did not have any effect at all on the Nation, that is if you are living in denial.

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Have you ever believed them? Your guys are more believable? Is there a point to your oneliner?

 

Fell before President Obama took office, He's been cranking it back up where it belongs for 6 years.

 

I'm always skeptical of big gov'ment and history shows I'm correct in that...but this particular prez and dem leadership demonstrated early they are not to be believed and now their intentional deception has been proven.

Point is, not to believe anything the prez and dem leadership has to say as they've been proven deceivers and liars.