Obama Met With Ferguson Activists Said Hes Concerned They Stay on Course

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think some host at Fox { Hannity ? } used a talking pt. that probably
    came from Roger Ailles.Something about what " Stay the Course " MIGHT have
    meant.That maybe it meant for the process { Grand Jury procedure } to
    play out.A wait and see approach.
    Of course what that doesn't take into consideration is how Obama Lives
    to play word games { Doublespeak or Alinsky tactic }.
    Obama usually saying one thing and meaning quite another.
    If there are Riots than Holder & Sharpton are to blame.
    They did everything in their capacity to rile up this Ferguson Fiasco.
    Just like in Sanford.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some have suggested that this might be the false flag event that Obama
    needs.Therefore the Country would be put under Martial law in most major cities.
    Maybe as a precursor for a bigger false flag.Homeland Security has been stockpiling
    ammo { around 2 Billion rounds } and Up-armored Military Swat Vehicles w/turrets.
    maybe get the Country used to how a Dictatorship operates.Like how
    Boston was in Lockdown { near 100 mile radius } on the lookout for 2 Youth { 19yr.olds? }
    Swat teams and Paramilitary going door-to-door sometimes yanking people { including
    the elderly } from their homes in order to strip search.
    Obama is a bully.Probably dreamed of the day he could round up Americans on
    his direct orders.Ferguson may be the vehicle to implement this.
     
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    The part I do not get, in English or any other language, is where You tell the President of The United States of America what he can or can not think, say or do, but you have obviously assumed the roll, not to mention your colorful critic of him (always amusing). Somehow I doubt he cares one iota what you think of his thought, what he says or what he does, you are not nor have you even been a supporter of his, hence your voice is probably treated as simply more noise coming from the right.
     
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    They threaten to riot and protest, and knowing what that means, Obama tells them to stay the course. lol....

    So either he wants the riots to fill the news while he imposes some immigration executive order....

    Or he's the racist so many people consider him to be.
     
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    No one deserves to die for taking a pack of cigars, nor of struggling with a cop. Now, if he were attacking the cop when he was shot and killed, that is understandable, and any right thinking person would agree.

    It is your opinion that all of the blacks shot down deserved it. A DA can indict a ham sandwich or he can choose to let the police slide. Sometimes they do get it right though, but not all the time. The highway trooper who opened upon on that black kid talked about on this forum awhile back, was found to be in the wrong. The video allowed that But in many cases its the word of the cop, and dead men tell no tales. And it doesn't seem to matter if black witnesses said something else happened, they cop's word is trusted over a bunch of blacks.

    As I said, if you think a cumulative effect is not a factor in the protests we will see, your head needs examined to see just how rational it is. I am not dismissing the event at all, but this stuff accumulates in the minds of people, especially if its a black mind.

    Unlike you, I KNOW there are bad cops, and far too many of them. I also know that the use of bullets is far more common today than in the past. Our cops used to be not so apt to shoot first, ask questions later. I know this because of my two very old family members who retired as cops. They stated this to me. I trust them, for I trust their judgement given their lifetime of experience doing police work. It's a fact. How did they manage not to shoot and kill people? They were trained differently, that's how.

    Some of these demonstrators believe the teen was just executed. But most of them are just looking to take out some wrath, others to loot. Lots of criminals will be in that group who protest. Opportunists.

    The ones who believe the kid was executed have a right to protest peaceably. It's the thugs in the group that will turn this into something ugly. And there will be people there that perceive a war on blacks, by the cops, and one can watch enough you tube videos to see they have good reason to believe as they do.

    Cops have the power of life and death over the public. And since that is the fact, we should watch them like hawks. And be ever vigilant. I get the idea though, that you want none of that. And IMO, that makes such a mind very dangerous.
     
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    Obama is all of the above. It's actually easy to be the leader when you have so many stupid people following. Thankfully it's only a third of the country, but the scary part is the media running cover for him.
     
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    Freedom does not give you the right to terrorize others!

    What part of that are you having trouble with?

    Apparently the FBI is worried too!

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/1...ll-likely-lead-to-violence/?intcmp=latestnews

    Do you still think race has nothing to do with it?
     
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    Good Luck going off-road on a bridge over a river! :roflol:
     
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    I Never said it did. Neither did the President. Welcome to reality.

    None of it, it is you that seems to have some sort of problem.

    It is called being prepared, you might have heard of it somewhere along the line.

    That is why there are also white people protesting, because it is all about race?
    You seem to forget that many black people, rightly so, do not believe the system gives them a fair shake, and while I believe the people in Ferguson are wrong on this one, they have plenty of reason to distrust the System, the numbers of cases where people were arrested, put on trial and falsely imprisoned is a long one and if they wish to peacefully demonstrate and voice their opinion they have every right to do so. End of discussion, wait and see what does and does not happen.
     
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    All your roads are on bridges and all the property is surrounded by deep water, and you're delusional if you believe anyone would buy that nonsense.
    Grow up or go bother some other adult interested in your act.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    That IS what the police officer had a reasonable fear of after Brown struggled with him over his weapons, with shots being fired, and then rushed back at him knowing that if he succeed in doing so he very likely could lose control of the weapon again, all the while his accomplish also being there to join in.

    And he was a fleeing violent felony suspect who had just attacked a police officer attempting to apprehend him, the officer had a DUTY to STOP him and that included using lethal force.

    He doesn't know that and was in no position to come to that conclusion. What we know from the original contemporaneous witness is that Brown turned and rushed the officer and would not stop even as shots were fired. That gave the officer no choice even if Brown was screaming I surrender, when you surrender you stop and obey police commands.

    #1 How’d he get from there to there?

    #2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck

    {crosstalk}

    #2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him

    {crosstalk}

    #2 Then the next thing I know he coming back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –

    #1. Oh, the police got his gun

    #2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

    {crosstalk}

    #2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing

    #1 The Police?

    #2 The Police shot him

    #1 Police?

    #2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com...ing-sharing-brown-doubled-back-toward-police/

    That account given immediately after the shooting by a witness not knowing he was being recorded, speaking to a friend without prejudice is very powerful. It also corroborates Wilson's account as given through the family friend. Both accounts given without knowledge of the other. They together are VERY powerful evidence. All the other witness statements that have been given in public came weeks after the event when the public narrative had already been formulated.

    And those people were not facing a 300lb 6'3" thug who had just committed one violent crime and then had attacked the police officer trying to apprehend him now 2 seconds from another physical attack as the thug was rushing at him.

    And BTW his arms being up could just as likely if not more just a simple reaction to someone shooting at you, a defensive motion not a surrender motion. You don't turn around and rush at a police officer with his weapon drawn and prepared to fire at you to surrender, you stop and follow their commands.

    No what happened if the evidence in fact exonerates him as the reporting appears to indictate is that after the struggle in the car where Brown knocked the officer back into his car and then attacked him with Brown getting shot there, he rushed off and when the officer got out crouched and pointed his gun at Brown ordering him to halt Brown turned and taunted him and then rush him, at that point the officer had the authority to use lethal force to defend himself.

    Why don't they trust the justice system? And what about the justice for the police officer?
     
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    I believe I was responding to your claim that maybe you could have saved the woman on the bridge in New Jersey...remember that?

    What if you are the one who is injured?

    And if you're not how do you plan on transporting an injured person on an ATV?
     
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    Why did you leave out the "strong armed" robbery part, that makes it a violent crime and I don't care if it was just a piece of bubble gum. It is violence against another citizen.

    A violent felon struggling with a police officer is very likely to be shot and that shooting can very likely end up in their death. Add in struggling over the police officers weapon and then rushing back at the officer and the will MOST likely be killed. In fact they can be killed running away.

    Wrong go back and read what I said. Most people killed by police black or white or whatever are killed because they deserved it, unlawful or mistaken killings are rare.

    The only cumulative going on is the cumulative violent black crime and cumulative blacks killing blacks. Police killing blacks is rare compared to the blacks killing blacks.

    Unlike you I know what I know and not you. So stop pretending you know what I know.

    What I know and prehaps you don't is that the vast majority of police are good cops who like this officers appears to have done is put their own lives on the line to protect the community from violent thugs like Brown.

    And when the grand jury says that didn't happen............what is their belief based on? We already know the claims he was on his knees if false, we already know the claims he was shot in the back are false, all assertions for which there we never any evidence. We know the witness who have gone public ran to the press AFTER the public narrative had already been created, their accounts not being contemporaneous and subject to bia's.

    In order to get what? What do they want done? They want to disarm the police? They want to pass a law saying the police can no longer protect themselves?

    And criminals have a power of their own if we allow them to get away with it. And police put their lives on the line as it appears this officer did, to protect us and look what it's gotten him.
     
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    You never said anything about New Jersey, is that the hell hole you live in? I seem to recall seeing many boats around the place when I used go there for business.
    I am not the only person around here, you live as a hermit? In New Jersey, LOL.
    Never heard of a trailer? I have several that can and I do tow behind mine, maybe you should invest in one, and a boat while you are at it.
    Now back to the topic, start your own thread if you want to discuss survival scenario's, you could obviously use some guidance in that area.
     
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    Is your memory that bad?

    What if your business is torched....are you going to put it out with your ATV?

    And seriously..you are hypothetically talking about putting an injured person on a trailer behind an ATV and taking it off road? :roflol:
     
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    I think Helter Skelter was predicted a bit early by Mr Manson..

    I laugh, when the majority decides to be done with this ignorant disregard for law there will be big problems for some people.
     
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    I'd tho't of martial law b/f, but dismissed it for now. IIRC, when a POTUS declares martial law, doesn't that cancel out an upcoming presidential election and he remains the POTUS while martial law is in existence? I'll look it up later when I have more time, but that's what I'd heard and tho't of Obama and how he's running and ruining this country..........

    As Rahm Emmanuel said 'don't let a crisis go to waste'......
     
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    Obama can think anything he wants... why should I care? And, considering that I am merely a taxpaying citizen of the United States, it is quite obvious that he doesn't care what I, or millions like me think about anything. He never has. OK, now that we've displayed this momentous revelation, what else have you got? Anything about Obama talking it up with the thugboyz -- lettin' 'em know he's got their backs? What a wearisome thing it must be to try to find anything noble or "presidential" in this jive-ass nothingness you hyperlibs have ensconced in the White House -- not once, but TWICE!

    The truly nauseating part is that Obama, who is supposed to be an big professorial expert on law and the Constitution, evidently doesn't have any idea at all that as President of the United States, he has no role to play whatsoever with the business of a grand jury in Ferguson, Missouri, or to inject his influence in the proceedings out there in any way. But, any time he wants to resign as president and go join the other gutter trash in "da 'hood", well -- five minutes ago is not soon enough for me! :rock_slayer:
     
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    Obama is literally one of the most vile, reprehensible people I've ever witnessed in my life. During his first campaign, there were a lot of TV shows on about the end of the world, Antichrist, etc. My wife somewhat jokingly said 'what if Obama is the antichrist?' I'm starting to think she had it nailed. This guy is such a lowlife piece of (*)(*)(*)(*). The only lower form of life are the idiots that undyingly support him
     
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    Recommend the prez lead from the front.
     
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    lol. I always wondered exactly what a community organizer does. Now I know: organize riots.

    That sounds about right for 0bama. He certainly hasn't helped racial issues.
     
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    I am anything but surprised by Obama's support for the Ferguson rioters.
    Remember an anti-American racist madman, who horribly brainwashed him in a destructive cult.
    Remember Rev. Wright.
     
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    Regrettably, you are right. Starting when I was a teenager all the way up until just a few years ago I very rarely heard anyone use the n-word except for Blacks. Now I hear racial slurs and curses used more and more often, by Whites!

    We went through all those improvements and corrections in our society -- even to the point of allowing the obvious wrong of reverse-discrimination (a.k.a., "affirmative action") in order to make our society more inclusive of Blacks, and what did that get us? More angry Blacks, more angry demands for welfare entitlements by Blacks, because of slavery (which ended 150 years ago), disproportionately high crime rates among Blacks, and never-ending, whining, belly-aching complaints from Blacks that they have it SO much worse than anybody else in this country.

    Now, as you look at the United States of America, you see that having a half-Black president for the past six years has done absolutely NOTHING to make anything better in race relations. The hyperliberal "news" media uses race to curb criticism of Obama, but all the while there is a seething, growing hatred growing now between the races increasingly focused ON Obama. It would have been a far better thing for Blacks if he had never come out of his "community" in a Chicago fairyland university environment where he could make himself believe that he was something truly wonderful....
     
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    Can you show us a quote or a press conference where the President of the United States supports people rioting.

    Yep I also remember Pat Robertson, John Hagee and the list goes on.
     
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    Remember Obama's words in his book "I choose my friends and associates very carefully"? "Birds of a feather...." is very true. Obama had supposedly thrown Wright under the bus during the 08 campaign - I seriously doubt it.

    I forgot - I don't think Wright horribly brainwashed Obama b/c he was already bent towards racism anyway, but Wright certainly added to it.... in him, Obama found his perfect 'mentor'......
     

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