Mr. Obama.......No need to "round them up"

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  1. getinvolved

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    Mr. Obama.......No need to "round them up", even though it can be done. They didn't all come here all at once and you wouldn't need to deport them all at once.

    Attrition Through Enforcement Is the True Middle-ground Solution

    The open borders crowd constantly tell the American people that there are only two solutions to our nation's illegal alien crisis – give illegal aliens amnesty or round them up and deport them. This is a diversionary tactic to draw public attention away from the most effective and efficient solution – Attrition Through Enforcement.

    The principle behind Attrition Through Enforcement is that living illegally in the United States will become more difficult and less satisfying over time when the government – at ALL LEVELS – enforces all of the laws already on the books. It is also imperative that the government with the full cooperation of the private sector, implements certain workplace enforcement measures. The goal is to make it extremely difficult for unauthorized persons to live and work in the United States. There is no need for taxpayers to watch the government spend billions of their dollars to round up and deport illegal aliens; they will buy their own bus or plane tickets back home if they can no longer earn a living here.
     
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    I'm sure he meant enforcement through attrition. Of course, liberals thought process is a 180 out after all.
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which will never happen because that would require JAIL the owners of the businesses who are hiring the illegals.

    While some of the Democrats are guilty, it has been primarily the Republicans who sabotage any efforts to get the root of the problem - the willingness of businessmen to hire illegals.

    Look at the ridiculous and false efforts of the our supposed bastions of the "fight to illegals" in Arizona and "Sheriff Joe" who did pass a law to punish employers and in all the years they have managed to accomplish almost nothing.

    If employers and owners would get perp walks of 6 months in jail and the eventual confiscation of the entire business and personal fortunes of the business owners for repeat users of illegals, the illegal problem would be solved. Just like the problems they have solved in most of the other industrial countries like Canada and Europe.

    But it won't happen. Our illegal employers like illegal cheap labor too much!
     
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    when will Republicans pass a bill making it a felony, punishable by 5 years in prison and $10,000 fine, to hire an illegal alien?

    when will they pass a bill making it VERY easy to establish, over the internet, if someone can legally work in the USA?

    why are the Republicans against a national ID that shows who can work in the USA?
     
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    Since Government is the biggest employer of these illegals via welfare, you must be really upset at the Government am i rite dave lol?
     
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    I remember just such a bill penalizing employers passing near the end of the Bush administration, which Bush signed into law (very much against his wishes) and which Obama totally ignored. ALL the laws that one would ever need are already on the books. What are needed, however, are presidents (GOP and DEM) who will enforce that body of immigration law . . . but none of them will.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what are the current penalties for knowingly hiring an illegal?

    what is the system set up for employers to easily find out who can legally work here?
     
  8. Gatewood

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    As I recall there were massive fines and possible jail sentences and 'yes' a full range of discovery. It sounded great on paper as I recall, but once passed into law it was never, ever enforced by either president.
     
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    Seems, there is no problem with our immigration policy and law...it is political enforcement that is the problem.

    That's executive branch issues.
     
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    Yes, but it's also a Legislative Branch issue because they are supposed to be a check on the inherent excesses built into the very nature of a Chief Executive 'operating' as the head of a nation; and yet when a GOP president is in charge the GOP leadership REFUSES to see any flaws in the fellow and will not tolerate any suggestion that they help the alarmed Dem leadership reign him in, and then -- well obviously -- the exact same thing happens whenever we have a Dem president with the Dem leadership. Obama could perform ritualized human sacrifices on the front steps of the White House and the Dem leadership would make excuses for him.
     
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    http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/penalties-for-employers-hiring-illegal-immigrants.html Quick link, gives the overall answers.

    The actual US Code on it http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324a

    I-9 form, and monthly new hire mailing to the IRS to verify employment eligibility.
     
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    Please site the bill otherwise you are just bs in
     
  14. Gatewood

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    No. Try using a search engine. The exercise might be illuminating.
     
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    Why site the bill when I can site the actual law? The actual US Code on it http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324a
    Are Progs really this inept when it comes down to knowing the actual laws of the US?
     
  16. Husky23

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    If you're an honest person then you need to come to honest grips; the Prez lies, is a fraud, misrepresents, does not obey his oath, and defies the will of the American people.

    You need a whole lot of introspection.
     
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    We aren't.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the buses load up on their way from Mexico city.

    Ironically, Mexico's immigration policy is more strict than ours.

    He waited until after the election because Americans wouldn't agree with this.
     
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    Fundamentally dishonest...but it has been proven the Prez and Dems leadership character.
     
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    bumper stickers R U.

    I'm familiar with the lies.

    What frauds has he perpetrated?

    You yourself do seem quite adept at misrepresentation.

    As to defying the will of the American People I wasn't aware that Presidential policy and decisions were based on public opinion polls.
    Nor is the will of the American people necessarily expressed by less than a third of the voting population.
     

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