Poverty Rate under obama hits 50 year high!

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  1. Whaler17

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    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-on-fighting-poverty-doesnt-match-h/?page=all

    "Although the president often rails against income inequality in America, his policies have had little impact overall on poverty. A record 47 million Americans receive food stamps, about 13 million more than when he took office.

    The poverty rate has stood at 15 percent for three consecutive years, the first time that has happened since the mid-1960s. The poverty rate in 1965 was 17.3 percent; it was 12.5 percent in 2007, before the Great Recession.

    About 50 million Americans live below the poverty line, which the federal government defined in 2012 as an annual income of $23,492 for a family of four."

    More deception and lies by the Furhrer in Chief Obama. Poverty hasn't been this bad in 50 YEARS!
    And he and the Dems claim to be all about the poor and "underprivileged". Not so much.
    Many stories in the recent past have shown that the Democrats are the true party of the ultra rich, although they claim to be against them.

    http://news.yahoo.com/party-rich-congress-democrats-205634504--election.html

    Maybe this last election is an indication that people are tired of being lied to.

    Anyone else see the trend here? Democrats lying constantly about where they truly stand?


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    Nah, I'm not seeing any trend here.
     
  3. Junkieturtle

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    Interesting though your article fails to contain the appropriate details as to how this directly involves Obama and what he's done. It reads like "Well this is happening and Obama is president so yeah, blame him, that sounds quick and easy".

    The truth is of course, not so biased and convenient. The truth is, global factors influence the economy and the conditions that have led to the poverty rate being what it is did not just magically appear under Obama. In large part it's due to the economic crisis of the last decade which was already set in motion and doing it's damage before Obama even took office. And to save time because I know this is the part where you'll mention something about how the democrats caused the mess because of fannie and freddie yada yada yada but the real truth of the matter there is that the CVA program you're going to blame shows default rates between CVA type loans and non CVA type loans are pretty similar. What this amounts to is, the only people who actually believe the folks who want to lay this all at Obama's feet are the people looking for anything they possibly can to blame on him because it makes them feel better.

    So enjoy your cheerleading and make sure you wear the right color panties.
     
  4. jackdog

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    waiting for someone to claim it is Bushes fault

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    maybe it is what he has not done
     
  5. Stuart Wolfe

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    At what point does Obama become responsible for what is currently happening?
     
  6. One Mind

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    Good grief. There are verifiable causes for the rise in poverty, the high jobless rates which are much higher than the advertised rate. And it has little to do with Obama. He is just ruling under a system that has created it.

    We are a consumption based economy who no longer makes what we consume, or enough of it. When we did do it, we expanded our middle class, provided a ladder up from poverty.

    We have allowed illegal and legal labor to reduce wages for americans, who were already devastated by the CHOICE, beginning with BUSH SR., to offshore millions of living wages jobs to other nations, to exploit their poor for labor, so our big boys could max out their profits.

    We are depending up a service sector economy to replace a manufacturing economy, to expand or maintain a middle class. Impossible.

    We have allowed our banking system to be deregulated, turning it into the most power lobby entity in the US, in order so they could, like the MNCs, max out their profits and personal income. This set up an environment that crashed, creating a recession.

    Automation, replacing humans has also displaced workers, without a sector to replace it, to provide living wage jobs.


    The loss of income created more safety net spending, even as those safety nets are not paying enough to actually provide enough for the people on them.

    Now, these changes started way back with Reagan. His successor Bush Sr. had NAFTA concocted under him, and Perot tried to tall the people what would happen, but they ignored him. Clinton came in, and signed what special interests and the republican party created, to allow business, big business, to exploit the poor elsewhere, so profits could get fatter. BUT, this started the destruction of the middle class, which has continued on, with offshoring to even cheaper labor in china.


    Now, you can try to lay this on one man, Obama, but to do so just shows that most people don't have a damn clue as to how we got to where to we are today. They are not smart enough, and are too easily fooled by clever economic propagandists.

    Perot tried you tell everyone that would happen. No one gave a damn, and not one had enough intelligence to see where the changes brought by the republican party, would inevitably lead. That enough treasonous dems went along with this pro business change is also a fact. But this originated from the repubs, and their big business and banking constituents. Accept it, and see both the dems and the repubs for what they are. Traitors to the poor, traitors to the middle class, with calloused knees that came from giving blow jobs to a few elites.
     
  7. Junkieturtle

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    When you can show Obama has directly caused what is currently happening, which you can't and have never been able to because the evidence you would need to do so doesn't exist. This isn't a "It was Bush''s fault" either though Bush's administration played a role in it too. No, this is the culmination of what happens when you let a bunch of folks who worship money and wealth make policies about money and wealth while removing the oversight that used to be in place to help keep those folks honest and in line.

    This is exactly what happens when you deregulate private corporations whose only reason for existing is to make their owners rich which they can accomplish because they've bought off the folks in the government that are supposed to be the watchdogs making sure this doesn't happen in the first place. This is why I laugh my ass off, literally(I've had three surgeries), when I see clueless folks trying to tell me that we should deregulate business because, and here's the punchline, they will regulate themselves.


    HHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaHaHAHaHHAHAa (*)(*)(*)(*) I have to go
     
  8. Stuart Wolfe

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    Actually, this is what happens when you have O-Bots argue that everything that happens is the fault of someone else, anyone else, rather than the President. Looks like "The Buck Stops Here" doesn't apply to the man.
     
  9. John452

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    About to get higher when 5 million low skill illegal immigrants are added to the system. One can't help but wonder what magnificent imperial decree Emperor Obama will bless the good people of the Republic with next. New EPA regulations to adhere to the deal he made with the Chinese? A veto of keystone if it finally gets through congress? Both are sure to set America back on the path to prosperity...
     
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    even the President of the NAACP acknowledges that blacks are worse off under the Obama regime, still Democrats got 90% of the vote in the midterms. More I think about it the more I realize that Gruber nailed it

    NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Jealous said Sunday that black Americans “are doing a full point worse” than when President Obama first took office.

    “The country’s back to pretty much where it was when this president started,” Mr. Jealous told MSNBC host David Gregory on “Meet the Press.” “White people in this country are doing a bit better. Black people are doing a full point worse.”

    The black unemployment rate was 12.7 percent when Mr. Obama took office. While the unemployment rate in the U.S. as a whole is below 8 percent, the Labor Department reported the black jobless rate was up from 12.9 percent to 14 percent for December.

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    Of course. His economic recovery is a lie.
     
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    (You're waiting for a democrat to accept responsibility?)







     
  13. Junkieturtle

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    No, it's just that the buck stops at a whole buttload of places instead of one convenient person that you can blame and then move on. The world is not that simple.
     
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    Poverty rate high, and another 8 TRILLION DOLLARS IN THE HOLE----thanks Obama!!!!
     
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    I'm quite sure that the Moonie Times failed to mention that the poverty rate started rising in the first term of the Bush adminstration, making him the first president since Herbert Hoover to actually see poverty rise in his term.

    As for the rest, what do you think happens when the economy crashes?

    And who was in charge of either Congress or the White House, when it was time to put the brakes on the speculative bubble??????
     
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    If the economy gets better it's Obama's doing. If poverty hits a fifty years high...it's Bush's fault. Same economy.
     
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    Well one major difference. Bush benefitted for awhile from a housing bubble, which then popped with the financial led crash. Obama inherited that mess. Now financial led crashes have traditionally been long lasting, which is why we regulated banking after the 1929 crash, to keep us from going through another one. Then the repubs came back into power, and deregulated, giving us another crash. They thought bankers could be trusted, when we already knew from history, that you cannot trust men who want mo money, mo money. When we eased up on big business, they got a good deal, by keeping access to our huge consumer market, while not using americans to make those goods, by fleeing to nations that had dirt poor, starving people who would work for 80 cents an hour. Americans are now suffering because of both deregulation and big business being able to write their own rules. Who woulda thunk it?
     
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    If Blacks are doing worse, we know Latinos must not be doing well either. Republicans need to beat the drum on this over and over. No one is doing well under Obama except the rich whom they supposedly hate. Obama has created a 2 class system--the rich and the poor. He has decimated the middle class which is the heart and soul of the US.
     
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    "Republican lies!"

    no wait, "There is no trend!"

    Or, wait maybe...


    "Racist!" "There's nothing there." "He learned about it on TV"

    "It's Bush's fault!" or no, "the Republicans are the party of "no" and are blocking everything the Fuhrer is trying to do....I mean Obama of course
     
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    Why blame just him the entire War on Poverty regardless of party is a failure due to one simple thing, one must accept a certain amount of the population will be poor and need a safety net and this has to be included into the economic system once you accept systemic poverty you can a lot resources to it. No one has done this yet in the United States.
     
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    It is actually. That's why you have a chief executive officer who is also commander in chief, to take responsibility and effect change.

    No president in the history of the US has had as many excuses as has Obama, from "I learned about it on TV", to "I inherited this mess" to "it was a spontaneous demonstration to "I never said that, what I said was you can keep your plan until the insurance companies change it" blaming insurance companies for what he, personally through 22 amendments had empowered them to do, and by which action took FULL responsibility for everything in it....but still lies saying he never said that.

    It IS that (*)(*)(*)(*)ing simple. It's called honor.
     
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    Congratulations, you've just ruined the whole "It's Bush's Fault!" meme for the Democrats.
     
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    Good for liberals. The more down and out you are the easy you are to manipulate with HOPE AND CHANGE. False promises are easy when those listening are dependent and desperate. It's all according the plan. Basically the more prosperous people are the less they need govt to provide necessities which is obviously the complete opposite of Liberalism. Liberals need poverty, hatred, strife and division to survive. That's why the poor and desperate lean left😜
     
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    It really is so sad.
     

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