10 Signs That Russia Is Preparing To Fight (And Win) A Nuclear War With The USA

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    Even though this whole debate is silly I will chime in.

    The issue the Russian's have as far as their Boomers is the U.S. Navy along with other service branch detection systems KNOW where every single Russian Submarine is moment to moment.

    Our Submarine Detection Capabilities is ABSOLUTE and exists at over 5 decades in advancement of Russia's.

    Plus we have Los Angeles Class, Virginia Class and Sea Wolf Attack Sub's that trail every Russian Boomer from the point the leave port to the point they come back.

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    Has no one been reading my posts? I addressed this already.

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    Only if our land based systems and civilian and military leadership survive their first strike and get off a retaliatory strike before their first strike hits.
     
  3. AboveAlpha

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    There are safeguards in place in the event all U.S. Civilian Leadership that have the Nuclear Launch Codes are killed.

    Do you HONESTLY think we would not have alternatives available?

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    And when those sub captains begin to receive uncoded and easily confirmed through open sources that the US civilian leadership and military leadership have been crippled and that land based systems were annihilated in a first strike that deliberately avoided cities and that Russia will launch no further strikes if the US surrenders and disarms it's boomers, but if a single missile is launched, the Russians would destroy every population center in the US, how many of those sub captains do you think are going to turn their keys?

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    All it takes is delaying a counter strike by a few minutes.
     
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    Every single one.

    Nuclear War is understood by both sides as idiocy.

    In 1983 we came within 45 seconds of Nuclear War.

    Since then....a great many things have changed.

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    Remember we don't need the Minuteman III's to retaliate.

    We have Subs, Carriers LOADED with Nukes and Aircraft stationed all over the Planet fully capable of delivering Nuclear Payloads.

    Nuclear War will never happen.

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    Really? Those sub captains would murder their own families and those of millions of Americans unnecessarily for revenge?

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    It isn't the Cold War anymore. Carriers and bombers don't regularly operate with nuclear payloads. They would have to bomb up, which destroying the bases for the bombers and the sites holding nuclear reloads for carrier planes and Tomahawks in the first strike is easy.
     
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    Uhhh...no.

    Each U.S. Navy Carrier Battle Group carries more Nuclear Warheads than the entire Nation of China HAS.

    Where in the WORLD did you ever get the idea U.S. Carrier Battle Groups did not carry Nuclear Weapons?

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  9. John452

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    Unless they lost their minds they aren't preparing for nuclear war or war of any kind against the US. Their biggest rival in the long term is China. America doesn't need anything from Russia that can be taken by war and vice versa. The dynamics that existed during in the lead up to the world wars hasn't changed that much except Japan and Germany have been neutered as far as warfare is concerned. If there is going to be any large scale war it will be industrial nations who lack resources against those who are resource rich.
     
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    Source for your claim?

    The fact that the US Navy carriers regularly put into nuclear weapons free-zones which would ban them if they had nukes on board indicates they don't regularly carry them.
     
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    Russia's Political and Economic Plan's were alway's based around the idea that because there exists large Oil and Gas Reserves in Siberia....and because they are and soon will be....WERE the #1 Suplier of European Natural Gas that they could get away with pulling things like the Ukraine Military Action.

    WRONG!!!

    Putin NEVER thought he would be in the predicament he and Russia are in now.

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    COME ON!!!!

    You know better than this!!

    U.S. Nuclear Carrier Battle Groups have always...and will always have a large supply of Nuclear Weapons as part of their weapons.

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    muhahaha!!!1

    that's what we WANT YOU to think. ;)
     
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    Back up your claim with evidence.
     
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    Russia starting a nuclear war because their feelings have been hurt would be nothing like the US dropping atomic bombs on Japan to stop a righteous war against fascists. I doubt that Putin would be willing to scar himself with such a branding.
     
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    So the US Navy regularly violates international law to which the US is a signatory (,thereby also violating the Constitution)?
     
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    They are very foolish if they can't see the potential problem of these significantly resource rich areas being in such close proximity to the worlds most resource hungry nation and rising superpower. Skirmishes in Ukraine are a fools errand and to what end? This is an extraordinary case of not being able to see the bigger picture. I could be wrong but burning bridges with the US and Europe appears to be a terrible idea. They need only look at their own history to see why.
     
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    The U.S. Navy will neither confirm or deny the existence of Nuclear Weapons stored within Carrier Battle Groups.

    But all one has to do is GOOGLE the blogs and posts of those who served aboard Nimitz Class Carriers as they are aware of the Special Munitions Storage Vaults aboard ever Carrier.

    For ANYONE to be so uninformed to think we don't have a large number of Nuclear Bombs within U.S. Carrier Groups is like a person fooling themselves.

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    Putin is usually methodical but he did not think this through and his ego will be his undoing.

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    You assume those vaults always have nukes in them.
     
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    Nationalism and strong emotions due to the Sochi Olympics and the break up with his wife? Whatever the reasons he needs to reverse course and look at the bigger picture.
     
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    Not just me...the Russian's assume this as well and rightly so.

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    So every time a US Navy captain of a carrier puts into a nuclear free port, he is knowingly violating his oath to support and defend the Constitution?
     
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    Yeah...word out is Putin was LIVID that the Ukraine picked to remove the Russian Leaning Ukrainian Leader from Power during the Sochi Olympics.

    It would seem this was all about Putin's bruised ego.

    He didn't think.

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    Do you honestly think the Japanese are not aware the USS. George Washington Nuclear Carrier Battle Group does not have Nuclear Weapons aboard?

    OF COURSE THEY DO!!

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    So those captains are knowingly violating international law the US is a signatory to and therefore the Constitution, yes?
     
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    you appear to be praying, wishing, hoping, that the USA would lose a nuclear war with Russia.

    why??
     
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    Well....when a Nation such as Japan passes laws to make certain areas Nuclear Free Zones...then at the same time desires U.S. Military Protection and allows Carriers that the U.S. Navy will neither confirm nor deny having Nukes....it is a NON-ISSUE!!

    Your being naive.

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