St. Louis Police demand apology from Rams for 'Hands up, Don't shoot' gesture

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  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    So... people should be supported for perpetuating a lie? The hands up BS was a lie!
     
  2. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter. Free speech is free speech. The Ku Klux Klan lies about black people every day. They're still protected.
     
  3. Russ103

    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On NFL time, wearing a NFL uniform their "free speech" is limited.
     
  4. mak2

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    Why? The NFL aint the government. if you dont like it, dont watch.
     
  5. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    And if the NFL wants to fire them that's their right as well. But it's not the right of the police or any government agency to demand an apology for their use of free speech.
     
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    People seem to forget, as civil servants, the police are beholden to US, not the other way around.

    Want to trample my rights to say the police are murdering scumbags?

    Then face the impending civil suit if you do so.

    They have no right to exercise any form of sensorship.
     
  7. Yosh Shmenge

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    What problem is that? The problem of giant sociopath thugs attempting to disarm and assault policemen?
     
  8. Dale Cooper

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    As usual, as always, libs are ignorant of the fact that when is drawing a paycheck from someone, one acts in a manner that the giver of the paycheck deems professional. Sports FANS are ultimately the ones giving the paycheck, in this case.

    Could be most libs don't work and have no basic understanding of what "professional" means or even how to spell it.

    There's a time and place to act stupid. On the job isn't one of those times or places.

    The police department doesn't have the right to DEMAND anything, but they can certainly exercise their right to not waste their money on such trivia as football.
     
  9. nra37922

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    What would be the outcry if a few white football players ran out on the field holding their pants and shouting 'Pants UP Don't loot'
     
  10. mak2

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    What has the NFL said bout it?
     
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    Those Rams players are probably college graduates. Yet they are showing ignorance and racism. If they would have taken time to read the Grand Jury report they would have known that the "hands up dont shoot" was a total lie.
     
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    I wonder what the response of those black multi-millionaires might be if a crowd of white racists started burning and looting THEIR houses and businesses because some white trash Neo-Nazi or Kluxxer had been killed while robbing a black business and assaulting a black cop?

    I'm guessing "Kill those honkie/craca MoFo's!" would be the most mentioned words.

    You just KNOW that if a crowd of whites or Jews started trying to torch Al Sharpton's mansion he would be screaming for the Governor to call out the NG to attack them with helicopter gun ships.

    "Equality" my big red ass!
     
  13. Dale Cooper

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    I neither know nor care. Sports crap isn't allowed in my home. Period.

    But I did see the headlines about this on my computer. I just shook my head as I realized football players are even stupider than I imagined in my wildest dreams.
     
  14. sneakypete

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    Not only was it perpetuating a lie,it was also encouraging more black racism and black crimes against non-blacks.

    It was also an exercise in hypocrisy.
     
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    lol. That would be racist of course.
     
  16. mak2

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    So after all this you dont even know what the ownersNFL thinks? maybe they are intelligent enough to understand there is more to the issue than stupid players and ultra intelligent conservatives behind their computer's keyboard. By the way, many libs work no matter what the noise machine tells you to think.
     
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    It also takes a special kind of stupidity to demand society respect a bogus grievance that was based on a racist lie told to endow a punk thug with martyrdom.

    Brown deserved to die,and anybody that can't understand that is too far removed from reality to waste your time trying to reason with because they live on emotion and lack the ability to reason.

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    No,but they are showing public support for those who did and for those who plan on doing it in the future.
     
  18. Sage3030

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    The SLPOA is a union. It's not the government.

    I would have thought that the people on Browns side would support this. They are typically union supporters, after all.

    As as for my opinion, who cares, they are just millionaire athletes. Yes they are perpetuating a lie with the hands up don't shoot thing, but they have every right to express their opinion.

    Now, if the NFL and/or St Louis Rams fines them, or demands they apologize, they should. And if they refuse, fine them even more. If they refuse that, suspend them without pay. They used company time to express a political opinion and the Rams and/or NFL have every right to punish as they see fit within the current CBA structure. We just don't know yet if the Rams or the league have a problem with their display.
     
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    There is a difference in protesters and rioters.
     
  20. sneakypete

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    No,but they are showing public support for,and thereby encouraging those who did riot and burn to do more of it in the future by putting their stamp of approval on it.

    Not to mention encouraging others,mostly idiot juvenile children who worship pro football players,to do it in the future.
     
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    It's the attitude of the football players that caused the problems in Ferguson in the first place.

    Yes, just because you may have a right, disputable in this case, does not make it right. The SLPOA got it exactly right, the players impugning the police officer committed murder is outrageous and they should apologize and the NFL should insist they do so. They were working and representing the NFL when they did what they did. Had they done it on their own time without any association with the NFL it would be a different matter.

    "SLPOA Business Manager Jeff Roorda said", so why are you so interested in his name?
     
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    Does having insurance make burning a house or business down acceptable?

    What about anyone dying in those fires or riots? Would that be acceptable also if they had life insurance?
     
  23. mak2

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    They are supporting the protesters, not the rioters. The RWers have mixed the rioters in the with protestors and then condemed both. Protesting can still be dont legally in this country.
     
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    So the police officers association (therefore not the government) shouldn't have free speech? Having the right to say something doesn't automatically mean you should say it and doesn't mean other people aren't allowed to disagree with your choosing to say it.

    There is also the fact that the players are representatives of their team and the NFL, especially during the game and while those organisations also have free speech, they have the right to restrict what the players say (and do) when they're representing those organisations.
     
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    I don't deal in what-ifs and strawmen.
     

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