Atheists, Do you Realize

That you measure the day in time we are presently in and the day on earth you were born by when Christ Jesus died? 2014 is the number of years that have passed since his physical death.

Why would the entire world measure time by his death if the entire story is just a fairy tale? Christmas is a holiday celebrated all over the world, just because of a fairy tale? Seriously?

Secular historians recorded his existence and following, and crucifixion, yet you still believe it is all just a fairy tale? History also records the fact that his closest disciples were put to death horribly just because they expressed their beliefs in him. They did this to protect a fairy tale?

 

They have peculiar standards for historicity when it comes to Christ. No other figure is held to such ridiculous standards, such as the lack of his written word instead of the written word of so many others about him.

 

LMAO...Sorry to burst your fundamentalist bubble, but the entire world doesn't follow the Gregorian calendar. In fact, the majority of people in the world use different calendars.
Educate yourself.

 

According to the Hebrew calendar the year is 5,774
According to the Chinese calendar the year is 4,712
Roughly 66.6% of the people of the world don't celebrate Christmas
Why is English the official maritime language of the world when less than 6% of the world speaks English?

Stupid arguments really are stupid arguments.

 

So your "proof" of the "divinity of Christ".....is the use of the Gregorian calendar??? You might not know this but Pope Gregory XIII lived over 1500 years AFTER Jesus and the disciples did.



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Obviously because Jesus spoke English....otherwise how could English be so widely used across the world like the Gregorian calendar is.

Duh.

 

There may have been a philosopher and religious figure active called Jesus and he was also crucified by the Romans likely on grounds of sedition to the state, enough of a reason for a non-Roman to be executed. But there is no proof he was more than a human being sufficient to be more than any one of a number of religious figures in history.

 

It isn't. It's supposedly counting from his birth, though it doesn't really, because there is no evidence to suggest he was born anywhere near the first year CE.

But that's not true, the majority of the world's population doesn't measure from that approximate time.

That's not true either. Christmas is celebrated by a minority of the world's population. Not that any of this has any bearing on whether or not the fairy tale is true.

Not really. There are no historians at all who confirm anything other than there was a sect at the time that worshiped some messianic figure. Of course, there were plenty of those, even years before the myth of Jesus appeared.

The only exception is Josephus, but the bits where he writes directly about Jesus are commonly held to be fake, given things like them being written in completely different handwriting from all the other stuff Josephus wrote.

Muslim extremists blow themselves up in the name of their God. By your logic, that must mean islam is the one true religion.

 

Eh.... the calender as we know it today has been altered and tweaked into a more accurate system. What the heck are you blabbering about ? Go to bed, Whaler. You're drunk. And the basis of Jesus being born exactly 2014 years ago has been proven false. It's just a tradition you're holding onto.

 

So tell us which countries don't recognize this as 2014, please. And PM me if you would please. I likely won't be back in this thread to read the fruitless attempts of atheists to prove that God can't exist.

Though now that I've written that last interesting sentence, who knows. But PM anyway please. Just a list of 5 major, civilized countries would suffice. Then after I check it, I'll admit that the nebulous period in which Jesus was said to live isn't the primary basis of date-keeping in highly-civilized countries.

Try this: Google "Do Russian/Chinese/Norwegians/Japanese consider this to be the year 2014?" That should be easy.

 

Most people now recognize Arabic numerals which are vital in business, data entry, and the tech fields for binary coding. Does that mean Arabic is the greatest language and proprietor of numerical knowledge ?

 

2014 - 33 = 1981. So why on Earth are you talking about 2014 years?

The world that live by the Gregorian calendar doesn't measure time by his death, rather by his birth, which is not the year of his birth by the way,

No secular historians recorded his existence and following, and crucifixion. The "facts" about his disciples are more fiction than true story.

 

Blame the Romans, this must be their fault somehow.

 

OP has probably crawled into a hole to hide, what an idiotic and embarrassing post.

 

No other figure claims to be the son of God himself. Hence the standard. Is that really that hard for you to understand?

 

Do you realize, as a Christian, that the days of the week are named after Greek Gods? BFD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_days_of_the_week

For the same reason we measure days of the week by mythological Greek deities.

Seriously. It's not celebrated around the world...It is celebrated in places Christians have lived or colonized.

They may have recorded that someone fitting his description existed. So what?

Maybe, yeah. The fact that you believe a fairy tale is completely true does not necessarily make it true. Want an example?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(religious_group)

 

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Yes, it is the year 2557 of the Buddhist Era according to the Thai Solar Calendar
and it's the year 1376 in the Burmese calendar
it's 1393 in the Islamic Azar calendar
In the Hebrew Calendar it is 5775

 

There are so many errors in this that I'm almost not sure where to begin. First of all, our calendar traditionally starts at the birth of Christ not the death (B.C means before Christ, A.D is Anno Domini latin for year of our Lord). Secondly, whether something is real or not has no bearing on whether people will celebrate it or die for it, it just matter if those people believe in it. Unless of course you believe that Islam is the true religion since Ramadan is celebrated around the world and Muslims are willing to die for their beliefs.

Finally, the Romans left no records of anyone named Jesus. There is no historical proof he existed.

 

Check out the Gabriel Stone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel's_Revelation

 

No bubble busted here, I know what I know. So the civilized world uses it, and I don't see any substantial point in your post.

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So you still believe, despite the enormous impact Christianity had had on the world, and the historical evidence that Jesus lived, had a large following, and was crucified that it is just a fairy tale?

 

Are you disputing that the year 2014 is measured from the date of Jesus' death? If not, what is your point?



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So........you have no idea why you live your life measuring time against Jesus' death - a mythical date in your opinion.

very telling.

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Yet we measure time against his date of death and his followers over several centuries have died refusing to denounce him? Oh well, believe what you want.

 

OK I did type to quickly on the death versus birth thing, but the point remains. you live your life measuring time against a myth. Why?

You are incorrect that there is no secular historical record, see the links I have posted elsewhere.
So we have both been incorrect on certain points.

 

According to the Hebrew calendar, the date is Wed, 17 December 2014, 5775.

It is not the only culture that has its own calendar.

And what does Atheism have to do with a date that became universal for convenience sake? Why don't you read up on the history of the calendar before you base your assumption on it proving that Jesus and God exist?

 

Why don't you "educate" me and tell me what today's date is that you go by.