New poll finds majority of Americans believe torture justified

All that proves is that there are a lot of sick, twisted Americans who are paranoid and vengeful.
I feel sorry for people who think like that.

 

Yes I agree that America should stoop to the level of their enemies and ignore their own laws, international law and suspend their morality. Makes perfect sense to me.

 

Torture of a known terrorist is different than a suspected terrorist, the known one’s High Contracting Power has contracted for it…put me down as not advocating torture of a suspect. Even with the Known one it is better to hang them by the neck until dead after the surrender and before they complete their mission, because you can't trust a Democrat to have your back.

 

59% supports = "absolutely supports"?

 

So why doesn't the Republican Party have universal background checks are part of its platform? Or are you saying that the party platform does not reflect the beliefs of its members?

 

That's your opinion. Oddly enough, after your little monkey of a president totally screwed the foreign policy pooch in Iraq, Americans have trusted a democrat to run our foreign policy for the last two presidential elections. Curious, eh?

 

So we should just say "screw it" to the treaty we signed? Because enemies of ours in the past, BEFORE the treaty was signed, btw, tortured us? Why did we bother signing the treaty in the first place? And if you think the government has the right to just ignore treaties we sign when it suits their fancy, then why can't our government ignore laws and legal precedent that presently forbids police from torturing confessions out of US citizens at home?

 

We should have not signed the treaty. It was foolish to do so.

 

So Reagan was a fool?

 

Republicans oppose this? Source it.

Also... nice deflection from the topic. Just can't handle it when America disagrees with your perspective can ya?

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Another weak deflection.

Source that Republicans oppose back-ground checks.

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More deflection.

Relativism fallacies.

You lefties trying to defend your UNPOPULAR positions through childish tactics are dually noted.

 

"Do you support or oppose requiring background checks for all gun buyers?"

More than 80% of republicans polled support background checks, and the number is approaching 90%.

http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm

 

Well if you personally support background checks and your representatives does not, I suggest you contact them because they are the ones elected into office to execute the will of the people....or at least that is what they are supposed to do.

Meet the 45 Senators Who Blocked Background Checks

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/number-senators-voted-against-background-checks-proposal

 

Oh please tell me what "MY" unpopular decisions are, I would love for you to show me in quotes where those are at. Maybe instead of regurgitating rhetoric, you can actually provide proof instead of being the lying con you are.

 

Your assertion is laughable.

National Surveys of 1,000 Likely Voters
September 7-8, 11-12 & 15-16, 2014

ISSUE:

Economy
DEMOCRATS 41%
REPUBLICANS 44%

Nat'l Security & War on Terror
DEMOCRATS 38%
REPUBLICANS 46%

Job Creation
DEMOCRATS 39%
REPUBLICANS 46%

Energy Policy
DEMOCRATS 46%
REPUBLICANS 38%

Afghanistan
DEMOCRATS 36%
REPUBLICANS 42%

Immigration
DEMOCRATS 38%
REPUBLICANS 45%

Gov't Ethics & Corruption
DEMOCRAT 39%
REPUBLICANS 38%

Taxes
DEMOCRATS 41%
REPUBLICANS 44%

Gov't Spending
DEMOCRATS 32%
REPUBLICANS 51%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues

 

So why aren't universal background checks part of the Republican platform?

 

lets be honest here.... I don't think waterboarding or sleep deprivation is torture.... but I completely feel they were justified in using those techniques....


Torture is....

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So I'm not in favor of torture.... but this "poll" classifies what I do support, as torture.... and that's intellectually dishonest

 

And my opinion is based on the legal findings of the DOJ, what do you have that trumps that?

Dodge noted try again this time lets take the attack on the school that just happened, we capture one of the terrorist and find evidence another attack is planned the next day, do you support using EIT to try and extract the information from him to stop it or do you support letting the attack happen?

And if every terrorist group and enemy of ours would limit their treatment of those they capture to ONLY what we did and ONLY to high level captives we have a solid reason to believe it would stop an imminent attack the world would be a much better place wouldn't it. We could all sleep better at night knowing our people who are captured would only face that instead of the actual torture and deaths they now face.

Give me the names of the ones whom we knew were innocent but were subjected to EIT since everyone on them had to go through a legal review before they were subjected to it. And as someone who has had two sons in the military, one retired one still active, who both served multiple tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan and other hostile locations I would great the day our enemies would adopt and limit their treatment to the very same guidelines we used. So don't think you can trump me there.

I think you understand little if anything about other people.

Semantics all you got left?

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We already have them why do they need to be in a platform and when did platforms amount to anything anyway?

 

Exactly.

I have had a background check performed on me EVERY time I have purchased a firearm.

 

If they hate so much what we do here and love what is done elsewhere, the simply thing would be to go to where they love it.

 

Wonder how we rectify this poll with the ones that demonstrate an overwhelming majority of the American people (83%) are not informed and could really care less.
How many Americans do you think actually read the Senate Intelligence Report -- or have the slightest clue what enhanced interrogation tactics truly are? And how many do think have the capacity to link our actions with the reactions that have grown the extremist ranks at unparalleled numbers?

Heck, how many do you think know the capital of Vermont? Or that The president has a US birth certificate?

Ignorance is bliss for those who are. It's a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) for the rest of us.

max

 

my "assertion" is laughable????

whose been elected and reelected as president? just curious.

 

At no time should the US back themselves into a legal corner with treaties. War and the savage nature of it will prevail.

This notion of going to war with rules, to be above the enemy is only a recent applied theory. If war is needed and you call for the young to fight and die then send them forward without the burden of gentleman.

 

But but but...

#TerroristLivesMatter

 

then gather the political force to abrogate the treaty. Until then, it is the law of the land... enforce it like you would any other law or agree that you're willing to (*)(*)(*)(*) on the constitution when it suits you.