Is today's violent black culture karma for slavery ?

If America was made to attract the world's brightest and hardest working immigrants, what does it say that our early founders brought in millions of Africans who never wanted to be here in the first place ? I am completely done with the thug black culture, but more and more I feel their culture is a result of nature, and nothing else.

The African immigrants in the US today are more intelligent than their black American counterparts who are here because their great great great great grandparents were brought here as slaves.

How can we expect a culture to evolve if they weren't the best of the best to begin with ?

Today's violent black culture is a direct consequence of slavery bringing over all blacks whereas most other races here are a result of driven ancestors who immigrated here who were of higher intelligence and civility.

Basically, we brought over the all blacks from Africa, not the most intelligent or culturally advanced.

 

The culture of people in poverty who see no way out is almost always violent regardless of their race. Blacks are disproportionately poor, living in ghettos, with kids dropping out of non-performing schools, living in single-parent families, and no jobs and the leftists are determined to see that blacks stay that way. The resulting violence and deaths are no surprise and neither is the lack of interest on the part of the liberals.

 

People are products of their environment, if you oppress and exploit them dont be too surprised they grow to resent you and want to fight you.

 

The first Asians and Europeans who came here were poor too, but they had the genes for intelligence and drive which moved most of them forward. The less advanced Asians and Europeans didn't have the drive to come here.

 

I respect you for admitting they are like this because of what has been done to them and the current environment they live under, of course I disagree with who caused this environment but at least we can agree it is the environment, not their skin color.

Liberals give blacks affirmative action to give them free school so they can make it out of poverty because as you said they are disproportionately poor, is it really that evil of us to want to help them? And is helping them really making them worse? Thats bull(*)(*)(*)(*), Reich Wingers just spread this notion that helping black people actually harms them because obviously THEY DONT WANT ANYBODY HELPING BLACK PEOPLE

 

More race baiting. All groups are oppressed and exploited at some point, but there needs to be an innate drive to evolve and prosper. Not all people have that, but with blacks we just brought them all here in mass without prejudice.

 

Did you really just bring up "genes for intelligence" in regards to Asians over African Americans? Yeah, you are a racist, no doubt.

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Nice strawman, yes all races have been oppressed and exploited but not nearly on the scale Africans have, the fact you are trying to ignore that just adds on to the obvious fact you are racist

 

As a rightist...would you like to see poor blacks lifted out of poverty?...

 

That's my point ! Slavery was not prejudicial against lower intelligence and drive. We just brought over every fit black person and expected them to evolve.

 

NO ! There are dumb Asians, and those Asians didn't have the drive or intelligence to come to America.

 

Nope the blacks are just holding a grudge, they should have forgiven us because that is what god promotes !

 

Yes, you tend to be the exception and are probably of higher intelligence, genetically. I am of Indian heritage and there are millions of lower IQ Indians in India, and most lack the will or ability to come to America, let alone make it here.

But there was no weeding out process for blacks. They were brought here in mass, without discrimination.

 

You dont think they can "evolve"? You use such racist terminology its hard to even hold a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing debate with you without feeling disgusted

Yeah im done, you are racist and it couldnt be anymore obvious, you are disgusting this "debate" is over.

 

how is it racist to say there are intelligence variations in ALL races ? There are smart blacks and dumb blacks. There are smart Asians and dumb Asians.

 

Everything you say is testament to high value genetics. It's in your blood to be hard working and intelligent. This doesn't disprove my notion that intelligence varies from family to family.

 

I believe it's karma for "the war on poverty" which the dems own.

 

Interesting post and food for thought. You could be correct. After all the slaves that were brought here were sold by their own countrymen back in Africa. What does that say about them? It doesn't help that white guilt keeps white people from demanding more for the black community.

 

The 'immigrants' are clearly part of a strategy to try to make every US citizen a 'modern slave' of the system (including them)
How? By using and spreading emotion in many ways. One is by using a provocation (a violent revolutionary act), and that has caused the violence. The higher the emotional level in the minds of millions, the stronger an hierarchy gets ( power shift towards top of 'pyramid')
And when people see all kinds of negative things in the media by 'immigrants' (includes violence and brutality by 'white' and 'yellow' 'police officers' and far right demonstrations, and the numerous revolutionary groups over the last years)
Power is gained via the spread of fear/emotion (including the emotions; curiosity, awakening, from crisis, happy and sad events), to hope people start to submit and/or start to resist the system, which will enforce power. Because emotions continue to rise in millions (and via cyberspace as well)
Most 'immigrants' were lured into the west by spreading false promizes, that they would find a better life and a job, but a lot did not find a good life end ended up in the gutter. So they can't be compared to the first US immigrants (that is what politics is sometimes referring to, make play with)

 

Its the culture--its anti-American, angry, resentful and frankly anti-God. The same type of attitudes are in the mobs of Muslims over seas that tear things down and murder people when a Koran is burned. Today I saw a video of 1000 black "youths" fighting and creating mayhem in a mall. That is 1000 kids who don't have a job and was never taught to value of a job. That is 1000 kids who most likely never had a relationship of significance with a father figure.

This type of behavior is color-blind---it can infect any race if that race centers around its destructive values..

 

The current thug culture has nothing to do with slavery, nor with race. It is the result of perverse incentives put upon the black population by well meaning fools. It's victimhood, welfare, minimum wage, anti discrimination laws, toleration of and excuses for bad behaviour that causes the black thug culture. Not slavery, and not race.

 

Poverty does not equal crime so remove that meme from your equation.

Crime rates have been dropping, and have continued over the last 6 years. Our economy has moved many to poverty in that 6 years; yet crime rates are down? Figure that one?

The same can be said of the Great Depression, you know the one before the one we are in now.

Poverty is no excuse and it is degrading in its inference. Sounds like the start of a great Progressive argument for eugenics.

Cheers
Labour

 

Hello?

Everybody should have a good standard of living. This includes the satisfaction of a job well done and the dignity of paying your own way. The idea that somebody else can 'lift them out of poverty' is antithetical to that. Efforts to give people stuff they haven't earned are doomed to fail. And that's why you see such toxic culture. Reinforcing a sense of entitlement is really a problem. When you think the world owes you a living but you're not getting it, you're going to be angry. And ungrateful for what you do get. It's going to always be not enough.

 

I agree.

I asked if he would like to see blacks lifted out of poverty, I didn't say "someone" should lift them. Rather they can lift themselves.

I was wondering if he was one of those types who hates blacks, and would just rather be away from them