Black lives don’t matter

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By: Bob
    Dec• 11•14

    **[snip]**

    Black lives don’t matter.

    If they did, people would be rioting to burn down Planned Parenthood locations, which have been intentionally located in minority neighborhoods since the group’s racist founder Margaret Sanger decided that it was the easiest way to exterminate them. In 1922 she said:

    “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”


    They’ve been wildly successful. New York City aborted more black babies than were born alive in 2013.

    Black lives don’t matter.

    Black women having abortions are the most prolific serial killers of blacks, murdering 10,000-1 more than cops.

    Black lives don’t matter.

    Black-on-black violence accounts for thousands of murders every year and hundreds of thousands of assaults… but you pretend that a handful of incidents involving police is where the problem lies?

    Black lives don’t matter.

    In hip-hop culture, women are degraded as nothing more than sexual conquests, criminality is celebrated, and education, family and hard, honest work is not just ignored, but spat upon.

    Black lives don’t matter.

    If black lives did matter, they’d rebel against the toxins in their own culture that account for the vast majority of violence, poverty, and death, instead of celebrating “thug life.”

    Black lives don’t matter. At least, they don’t matter unless they’re killed by a white cop as they commit crimes, and then everyone loses their fool minds.

    Black lives matter?

    (Excerpt)

    Read more:
    http://www.bob-owens.com/2014/12/black-lives-dont-matter/

    Black people shout out their distain and say Black people matter while the Progressive Socialist Left keeps them uneducated, in poverty and tells them it's all right to kill their unborn. Somewhere there's a dichotomy of lies told to the people.
     
  2. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Well they're in the news every day, all day long, complaining, rioting, looting and creating problems. So yeah, one tends to look at them as a race and as Americans. And when one looks, one sees just how full of nonsense and trouble they really are to this country, to everyone else and to themselves. So it should be stated for current consideration and posterity.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The OP is anathema to progressive cognitive dissonance.
     
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    usually I don't argue with polemicists but today i'm in a good mood white women make up the highest percentage of abortions at 36.8%, however whether someone chooses to abort or not is up to them whether someone chooses whether to get shot by a cop is up to the cop. So yes black lives matter equally to whites, hispanics, asians, and pacific islanders these people are protesting the pervasive violence that the us has not just cops the U.S has the highest prisoner pop in the world and the second highest behind the seychelles which has an overall pop of slightly over 90,000. At the end of 2011 the us had 2,266,800 .96% of our population. you know what else we lead the world in gun deaths, with 10 for every 100,000 that's on avg of 30,000 per year the U.S has seen it's mass shooting rate triple since 2011. so please do not spout off about how blacks are protesting for nothing or how it's somehow their fault.
    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6208a1.htm?s_cid=ss6208a1_w
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/...un-deaths-than-any-other-country-study-finds/
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/mass-shootings-increasing-harvard-research
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In an abortion, it is no more up to the innocent being aborted than it is the innocent being shot by the cop.
    All that you have done is to replace the cop for the mother.
    Cop kills innocent = Mom kills innocent / Two wrongs don't make a right !!

    Don't get me wrong. I do not want my opinion to be imposed upon others by force, not even force of law. Heck,
    if not for 'Voe v Wade', there would now be among us another fifty five million people all raised by mothers who would have just as soon killed them had it been legal. For all I know, abortion may well be killing all the right people. Then again, maybe not.

    As for me, I've yet to encounter a baby I've felt needed to be killed. Perhaps I've just had a charmed life.
     
  6. Independentchip

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    It's not about the mothers wanting to kill their children it's about the mothers being afraid. I am anti-abortion but i know two women who have had abortions because they "weren't ready" and if they carried the baby to full term they would not have been able to give it up for adoption. can a baby with no real sentience really be called alive, or innocent?
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A sentient is a being with intellect, emotion and volition. A zygote is not sentient, but it is human.

    Unfortunately for your argument, murder is not the unjust killing of a sentient; it's the unjust killing of a human.

    Personally, I am left to believe that there are many sentient species, but killing them does not constitute murder.

    If those who started wars were as willing to get as up close and personal with the actual killing as mothers are when aborting their babies, if they were as intimately dedicated to the deaths of their enemies as mothers are when aborting their babies, war would enjoy the same social acceptance that abortion enjoys. There's something to be said about such a primal drive. One would be better off getting between a bear and her cubs than between a fool and her folly.

    Death to the unwanted; keep abortion legal.
     
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    It may not have sentience(or more scientifically accurate, we can't tell it's sentient behavior), but it's very much alive. Any organism which develops its own bodily parts during the birthing process, must subconsciously anyway have some mechanism which gives it life. Which we know to be the brain and the heart. It takes but a few weeks to develop these vital organs, it can be said the newborn is already a life far before you feel the bump.

    To argue a fetus doesn't have life, is the same as to dehumanize our entire existence, regardless of skin color. All humans are targeted in the anti-birth propaganda that we aren't a life, until someone else decides we are. We are life, we are endowed with life and we have the privilege to create more life in the world.

    Human Beings, at our essential core are productive, long-living beings. The moment we observe this in ourselves, instead of destruction is the moment we can evolve as a Human Race.
     
  9. Independentchip

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    why do you say the people who go to war don't do it up close and personal? just in american history we have George H.W Bush, John F. Kennedy, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Theodore Roosevelt, Ulysses S. Grant, Andre Jackson, and our founder George Washington not to mention senators, Warchiefs, secretaries, and Supreme court justices. Winston Churchill went to war in fact it's a requirement for british royalty and that's just some of the anglo-saxon leaders not to mention Napoleon, Alexander the great, Ceaser, the roman emporers, the Mongols, and countless others in fact the human race holds it's greatest murderers in the highest regard look at Abraham Lincoln who saw 600,000 die under his orders so yes it does enjoy great social acceptance ie Us support for Iraq invasion in 2003 and Russian support for war in Crimea 2014. the actual definition of murder is the unLAWful killing of not the unJUST killing of. oh and just for the sake of semantics a Zygote is not human it has yet to begin differentiation it is just like any cell in the body and we kill hundreds of them by hanging out with friends on a Saturday night. Abortion is wrong but it is not murder at least not for now.
     
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    At least you've finally come clean.
     
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    a zygote is not alive it has yet to begin cell differentiation.. as to your argument about us being long lived creatures I assure you we are not as long lived as you believe at an avg lifespan of 79 years for males in the U.S. Productive you have obviously never worked in a cubicle because we are anything but productive :roflol: war is the bedrock from which we have built our civilization the need to destroy ourselves has given us surgery, radar, stainless steel, zippers, wristwatches, tampons, the slinkie, pulleys, ships, planes, trains name it and it was developed for war not to mention our greatest invention coming from our worst atomic power.
     
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    Yes it is alive and innocent. Or it would be dead and guilty. What could it possibly be guilty of?
     
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    "A human can either be alive or innocent because we are all guilty of being human" -the bible. ever heard of original sin? we suffer on earth to repent for our sins. so according to Christians just being alive is a sin therefore dead and innocent or alive and guilty. Lol AnywAy that was an error in semantics on my part sorry
     
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    I think the point is to point out the hypocrisy of the left which he did brilliantly.
     
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    ..."when one looks, one sees just how full of nonsense and trouble they really are"...

    Clearly one did not have to have blacks in the news to come up with this moronic justification. Clearly morons have always held these ideas of black folk. I just wish morons just had the balls to admit their hatred without any lame ass justifications...
     
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    That 30k figure includes suicides. Try not using crap like motherjones as a source.
     
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    No man in war has ever been as intimate with the death of his enemy as a mother is with the death of her child in an abortion. There's a level an commitment to the death of another exhibited by moms in abortions that if possessed by even a thousand men could defeat the balance of world forces. One is safer between a bear and her cubs than between a moms and their abortions.

    Death to the unwanted; keep abortion legal.
     
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    God created one human flesh in Adam. All Human bodies have come from that one human flesh.
    All human bodies are composed of human flesh.
    God created one human spirit in Adam. All human souls have come from that one human spirit.
    All human souls are composed of human spirit.
    Human spirit died in Adam and Eve. All human beings conceived are conceived with living flesh and dead spirit.
    We are each conceived with living bodies and dead souls.
    We are already dead. That's why we need to be born again.

    Jesus died for everyone's sins, but he did it after the death sentence had been carried out on everyone.
    That's why we need to be born again.

    Of course, if we were born again apart from Christ's sacrifice on the cross, we would just sin and die again.
    But our sins are not necessary for us to remain dead (separated from Life) because we're all already dead
    unless we've been born again.

    So no. Babies are not innocent. We are all guilty and stand condemned already. That's why we need to be born again.
     
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    I believe all lives matter in all races including Afro-Americans. I guess that reading comprehension is not your strongest. If you read my accompanying remarks perhaps it might be clear. "Progressive Socialist Left keeps them (Afro-Americans) uneducated, in poverty and tells them it's all right to kill their unborn". I'm not blaming Black people, I am blaming the ideology behind that has created the problem - Progressive Socialism. Therein lies the dichotomy.
     
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    Would you blame a drug seller for another's drug dependency?
    Do you blame politicians for entitlement dependency?

    I hold the drug sellers, the drug dependent, politicians and the entitlement dependent to the same standard.
     
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    I guess it depends on who got the addict hooked. Was it the drug dealer who cajoled the victim into his first freebee on drugs then started charging the victim for the drugs after hooking them? Then I'd claim yes it's the drug dealer. Coming from NYC I saw this happening daily out side schools and other places. It was cool to do lines of coke with someone else until it came time to get another high so then it cost you. The dealer increased his sales by giving out freebees, whether it was coke, crack, PCP, angel dust, Meth, or any illegal drug. Yes, you can blame the drug dealer or politician in your description to the same standard.
     
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    how come Conservatives only care about these issues as a counter-argument?
     
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    Maybe a Black guy stole his girlfriend/wife away from him. Just a guess.
     
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    Translation: "I sure wish we could get those uneducated, improvished Afro-Americans to vote for Republicans. Then I'd love them forever."
     
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    How come Liberals use race baiting slogans instead of logic and reason?
     

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