Army of Novorossia has closed the cauldron in the area of Debaltsevo.

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  1. Potap

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    The last few days were fierce battles in the north of so-called Debaltsevo pocket with the purpose to surround the big group of Ukrainian forces. This day the militia of DPR have managed to take under the control the town of Uglegorsk having met with militia of LPR who makes the offensive in the counter direction, thereby having closed the "cauldron" in the area of Debaltsevo. So they have surrounded about 8 thousands Ukrainian militarians.

    " The joint action of DPR and LPR militia almost completed the encirclement of Debaltsevo group of Ukrainian forces," said the representative of Staff of DPR militia Edward Basurin. Earlier, the head of DPR Alexander Zakharchenko urged the Ukrainian militarians to hand over their weapons in exchange for the promise to keep them alive.

    "We can not say that we are fully have closed all roads in the" cauldron ". However, DPR and LPR units are in the direct visibility from each other, their artillery fire can block the road "- said Basurin.
     
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    It seems like DPR is going to receive more military equipment and ammunition from Ukraine. Some of it may be very good from the recent supply rom USA. The rebels will put it to a good use.
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    I think he has had non stop meetings with the CEO's of the military complex to plan the lobbists funding of congress to provide that 3 billion more Poroshenko needs to continue killing the children and elderly.
     
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    Yea the map I saw this morning looks like DPR has the rats pretty well surrounded and in one district only 3 draftees showed up for their medical eval. I bet thats a tough one to pass. :roll:
     
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    For a falseflag to "work" it has to be believable, since you don't believe it then the question remains who really did it? Obviously if the intended audience is YOU (and it is) and YOU beileve (something), then that is the true false flag.
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    Yea.... thats got to be it. DPR is blowing up Donetsk. Brilliant.
    I thought you didnt believe in false flag attacks. :roflol:

    There are two mistakes one can make along the road to truth – not going all the way, and not starting.
    –Buddha
     
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    the rebels are trying to convince Russia to launch a full invasion
     
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    No they aren't, if anything (and if the Rebels are so interlocked with Moscow) the Rebels know full well their entire role is to be a thorn in Kiev's side.

    The prize is counter-revolution in Kiev and a physical graphical representation of the failure of EU idealism.

    The longer Ukraine burns the more Greece's and Spain's and UKIP parties explode across the EU demanding a destruction of that monstrosity.
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    Heres your boys. Arent you proud?
    "LAWLESSNESS IN MARIUPOL: SEXUAL SLAVES "AZOV" WERE SHOT FOR DISOBEDIENCE

    In Mariupol militants battalion "Azov" organized raped female prisoners of the colony, agreeing with her leadership. Information about this previously published repeatedly in the press, but now it has added new evidence of sexual slavery and execution for disobedience.

    Several of the women prisoners had already been shot for refractoriness and resistance, the colony was blamed their deaths on "try to escape". This is reported in the social network Vkontakte with reference to information from local journalists.

    "In Mariupol battalion "Azov" took into sexual slavery women prisoners. Not once It has been reported about the ongoing rape of local women by soldiers of naziguard. But punitive battalion "Azov" had decided to use them in an organized manner. The command "Azov" agreed with the authorities of the 107th women's penal colony of Mariupol on the nightly "lease number" of prisoners. Every night the battalion members taken from the colony a couple of dozen young women and girls and bring on base where all the regiment bullied all night. In the morning, barely alive women return to prison. Several women had already tortured to death or killed for resisting. Prison officials blamed the deaths on "escape attempt". This information is confirmed by several sources, including nazvanijami, bragging about it to their friends, and employees of the colony, who sympathize with the unfortunate prisoners, but can't help", - stated in the message."
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    This stuff always comes out in the end.
    "The bus shelling incident in Volnovakha could have been organized by the Security Service of Ukraine, hackers from CyberBerkut group claim, publishing compromised SBU documents on the official website of the network.

    Hackers released letters and cryptograms of the Anti-Terrorist Center of the SBU, confirming that the attack could have been planned and carried out by SBU Office in Donetsk region. The documents also contained information about how Ukrainian security forces used the incident for political purposes.

    In a ‘confidential’ letter from January 13, SBU first deputy head Basil Gritsak instructed Gennady Kuznetsov, head of the center “A” of SBU Anti-Terrorist Center, to carry out a provocative campaign, aimed at laying the blame for civilian deaths on independence supporters in Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republic. Gritsak ordered “to plan and submit proposals for provocative actions, which would help to charge DNR and LNR militias with civilian deaths”.

    CyberBerkut also published a cryptogram, where employees of the SBU Office in Donetsk reported they had implemented “propaganda campaign to make the required informational impact on Ukraine's population”. The cryptogram was sent from SBU Office in Donetsk region to Kiev and Kramatorsk. The network also released a list of media publications, accusing independence supporters of shelling the bus."

    Source: http://cyber-berkut.ru/
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    He is kinda a waste of breath. He doesnt even believe the top Kiev Military Gen. that there are no Russian military troops in Ukraine. Kinda sad actually.
    "Ukraine’s military Chief of Staff Viktor Muzhenko admitted Russian troops have not been taking part in combat operations in the country’s east during news briefing in Kiev, Ukraine Channel 5 television reports.

    The chief of Ukraine’s General Military Staff Viktor Muzhenko acknowledged that Russian regular army units were not involved in combat action in the troubled Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

    “Right now the Ukrainian army is not engaged in combat operations against Russian regular units,” he underscored.

    Muzhenko added, however, that he had information about Russian civilian and military individuals fighting alongside independence supporters in the country’s east."

    Video (since 13:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxFTh4A3Kys
     
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    "Russia claims there are no Russian troops in Crimea".

    :roflol:
     
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    This is what USA and EU are wanting, but Putin is a shrewd man. He does not, as soon as DPR does it well. I hope more victories over Kiev junta are to come. Novorussia needs all the land to get connected with Crimea.
     
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    But what after? Russia needs Kiev to be either a failed state or a Russian puppet. How does it accomplish this without absorbing the problems of Kiev? It's one thing to deny access to the Donbas and Mariupol. Another thing to absorb those areas, but a third thing entirely to deny Washington DC access to Kiev.
     
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    I dont believe that Russia wants the Ukraine. What they want is for it not to be a NATO country and act as a buffer zone against the aggressiveness of the western encirclement.
     
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    I think it just about over if the US stays out of it.
    "Give it up already Ukie western bank puppets.
    "Azov Commander Freaks Out, Calls the War "Lost", Blames Everybody
    1/26/2015


    Azov Battalion Commander: “The West did not help, the war islost, the situation at the front is critical.”

    Translated from Russian by J.Hawk

    Ukrainian politicians and generals “already lost the war,” and “West did not help.” That’s the core of the statement by Azov punitive battalion commander’s, and currently also Rada Deputy’s Andrey Biletsky in his “Address to the Nation” which he published on his official Facebook page.

    He dismissed as forlorn hope the notion that “Russia will calm down,” but he still called on Ukrainians to mobilize, become “cannon fodder”, and go off to die in the East.

    “The situation at the front is critical. The wake-up can be very painful. We have to look the truth in the eye.”......................... .....
    http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/01...calls-war.html
     
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    Take it like a man or a sissy....Unless you say you cannot handle truthful evaluation of your typical responses? How did you like that massive beat-down I gave you over MoscowTimes?
     
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    Moscow Times, the one you claim is anti-Russian and owned by Americans?

    lol!!!!!
     
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    Yes they are.
    "Today, 03:00 PM
    Ronstar replied to a thread Russia is stronger than America, and morally superior in Political Opinions & Beliefs
    how come Russia keeps sending agents to this forum? :(
     
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    I said it was owned by Dutch I said it was financed by CIA which considering its heavy laundering it is. Go on laugh, that's all you're good for. You never provide any facts.

    Remember how you said the MoscowTimes was pro-Russian? Yet it doesn't even offer a "Russian language version"?

    This is why people insult you on the forums and is why you resort to the little "report/coward" button. Because the insults are true and hurt your feelings.

    Go on insult me I don't care, I got good coffee to drink that is worth more than your scorn.
     
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    " it was the first Western daily to be published in Russia"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moscow_Times

    You're welcome.
     
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    Well, we can hope. The most important thing is that this horrible violence comes to an end.
     

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