"Growing up godless"--America's secular families raising kids are doing "quite well"

Fail. Fail. Megafail.

JUSTIFY YOUR MORALITY.

YOU CANNOT. PROVEN.

This is not about me. I have made NO CLAIMS except that your lame responses would prove inadequate. Sadly, 100% correct.

 

Already did and already reminded you, I have no obligation to repeat myself.

So what about all the Buddhist, their morals are not valid?

It's about you MORE than about me.

You claimed your morals were valid and mine were not. Yet you cannot point to the morals you have which I do not share with you.

And as I noted mine are more valid because you would give yours up were it not for your adherence to them hinging on a threat from a mythical god. I don't need threats to adhere to mine.

And if you are going to rely on the morals of Stalin you are going to have to let me know what they were, if you refuse then FAIL again.

 

How would you know if God was not created by another GOD?

 

Is this the same Zuckerman who believes women still only work in the home?
" It could have to do with who traditionally works inside/outside the home. While men traditionally work outside the home, women are more likely to work within the home"
Somebody push his "way forward" knob on his time machine.

 

If you believe in God, you have chosen to reject Allah, Vishnu, Budda, Waheguru and all of the thousands of other gods that other people worship today. It is quite likely that you rejected these other gods without ever looking into their religions or reading their books. You simply absorbed the dominant faith in your home or in the society you grew up in.

In the same way, the followers of all these other religions have chosen to reject God. You think their gods are imaginary, and they think your God is imaginary.

In other words, each religious person on earth today arbitrarily rejects thousands of gods as imaginary, many of which he/she has never even heard of, and arbitrarily chooses to "believe" in one of them.

The following quote from Stephen F. Roberts sums up the situation very nicely:
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

http://godisimaginary.com/i28.htm

 

You are a liar.

Buh bye.

 

In this study, was economic status taken into consideration? Is there a correlation between faith and economic status? Seems to me the more affluent you are, the less religious. Aren't higher educated people less religious?

Look, it's the liberal argument that economic status and crime have a direct cause and effect relationship. So why would anyone be surprised that a person is less likely to be in prison when they are in better economic circumstances and have higher education?

 

Using data from two national 2005 surveys of Americans, I observe the following: (1) overall, SES is associated negatively with beliefs in divine involvement and control

http://socrel.oxfordjournals.org/content/71/1/25.full

 

Here's a basic question....

in the 21st Century, when a bio-tech company is hiring a new researcher....

will they pick a young person who was raised on "creation science"?

 

White Flag noted.....

 

I enjoyed your bout with BG, but you must know you lost the 'debate' in spectacular fashion. When the direct and clear questions came you couldn't answer them - at all. Guess that's why you bolted.

Once again, the old superstitions leave an acolyte high and dry.

 

Doesn't really matter. DNA technology works the same way for a creation scientist as for an evolutionist. I firmly believe (based on the evidence and explanations I've seen/read) that evolution is the best explanation for the current state of our living things. That said, evolution is not really important to understand for people outside of the field of evolution/taxonomy/paleontology. There is nothing about learning creationish that precludes learning how DNA works, and how genetic engineering works. I say this with some knowledge of the subject. I have a master's degree in biology.

 

You won't defend your lie or retract or apologize.

We've all now taken your measure. Now you get the last word, liar.

 

I'm an atheist. He's a liar.

 

I'm not sure about that statistic. What else is there to do in prison besides getting religion?

 

aplogies for the acolyte comment, in that case.

the rest stands.

 

Arent the God-less kids the ones that have shot up schools like Colombine?

 

You mean Dylan Klebold (who was Lutheran) and Eric Harris (who was Catholic)?

 

I'm an atheist and though I've never been to prison I can't imagine a situation where I would turn to religion, even if it was just to pass the time. Seems to me that all of those who find religion when the going gets rough were already prone to that way of thinking.

 

actually like Hitler, they were usually Christians that were raised in a Christian household with many Guns

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You can say they were Catholic and Lutheran, but did they actually go to church? Probably not.

 

After a while I'd think any prisoner would want an extra hour or two outside his cell even if it meant going to a Bible study.

 

A case of special pleading. Somehow the universe must have an explanation (it's created!!) but God doesn't need one??

Sorry, wrong. See this video.

[video=youtube;ODetOE6cbbc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODetOE6cbbc[/video]

 

Anyone faced with a situation where the means to support oneself is not there whether religious or not will resort to crime to survive.

 

None of this means anything.

It's how HAPPY they are that means "doing well". Not the job or money they have, not the closeness of family or how long they stay married. It's not even how happy they say or think they are. It's how happy they actually ARE. And no, you can't really measure that, of course. --That's tough for a secularist to understand, I imagine.

Happiness.

And if you think that secularists are as happy as people who believe in God, you're "looking in all the wrong places" my friend.

And if you're telling us that godless people are more honest, you are just too far off.
God is the Principle of honesty. Without God, you can't really BE honest. You can only act in your own behalf because you think that in the final analysis, you're all you have. nerrrrt!!!! FALSE. You're NOT all you have, in the end.

If you're a true secularist, you can help others only because it helps you, somehow, somewhere down the line

Face it, picturetaker, you just got a big 'ole boner against religion.

Truth is though, not even a secularist can fail to believe in God at some level.

Because since God creates reality, no mind or being can possibly be unaware of God. It's just denial.