Most Americans Support Government Action on Climate Change

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  1. Agent_286

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    Most Americans Support Government Action on Climate Change

    By C. Davenport & M. Connelly | nytimes.com | Jan. 30, 2015
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    WASHINGTON - "An overwhelming majority of the American public, including half of Republicans, support government action to curb global warming, according to a poll conducted by The New York Times, Stanford University and the nonpartisan environmental research group Resources for the Future.

    In a finding that could have implications for the 2016 presidential campaign, the poll also found that two-thirds of Americans say they are more likely to vote for political candidates who campaign on fighting climate change. They are less likely to vote for candidates who question or deny the science that determined that humans caused global warming."
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    "Although the poll found that climate change was not a top issue in determining a person's vote, a candidate's position on climate change influences how a person will vote. For example, 67 percent of respondents, including 48 percent of Republicans and 72 percent of independents, said they were less likely to vote for a candidate who said that human-caused climate change is a hoax.

    Democrats are much more likely than Republicans or independents to say that the issue of global warming is important to them. Among Democrats, 63 percent said the issue was very or extremely important to them personally. In contrast, 40 percent of independents and only 18 percent of Republicans said the same."

    As a result, many Republicans have begun responding to questions about climate change by saying, "I'm not a scientist," or some variant, as a way to avoid taking a definite position."

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    IMO: We are already decades late in rectifying our coal, gas, oil refining pollution, all of which add to our health, safety, and weather problems in America and our current drastic weather patterns is giving us this news. The biggest polluters are Big Oil, refining plants, and automobiles, and yet Big Oil is busy denying that pollution even exists. That contamination of our soil and water sources isn't real.

    In 2012, all the Republican presidential candidates but one - Jon M. Huntsman Jr.- questioned or denied the science that determined that humans caused global warming, and opposed policies to curb greenhouse gas emissions.

    Polls show that 83 percent of Americans, including 61 percent of republicans and 86 percet of
    Independents say that global warming will be a very serious problem if nothing is done.

    63 percent of Democrats said that global warming is very important to them. 40 percent of Independents while only 18 percent of republicans said global warming is important to them.
    91 percent of Democrats, 78 percent of Independents, and 51 percent of republicans said that the government should be doing more to fight climate change.
     
  2. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    If the problem is as big as scientist make it out to be , their is no government solution that will stop it. Throwing your money away if you allow them to use our tax dollars to "fight" it.
     
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    I could believe you'd get a result like that on a poll. However I think you'd find on the same poll that a whole lot of issues are marked as "very important" or "important".

    I have found in my limited experience (and in attempting some discussion here) that when weighed against other issues, fighting climate change is actually near the bottom of the barrel even for Democrats. The sort of thing they'd like to see done so long as it only impacts other people and generally supports green policies the party has roughly had since before anyone had heard of global warming.

    If you'd care to demonstrate that you're different, please indicate the positions you'd be willing to put on the table as part of a bipartisan compromise deal. For example repealing Obamacare, if Obamacare happens to be something you'd not like to see repealed.
     
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    Even while the BUSH ADMINISTRATION and the GOP were in full court press denial and had NASA climate scientists during that period sitting in interviews with LAWYERS just out of site of the cameras, the UNITED STATES NAVY was drawing up 'contingency climate change' plans for all their ships, ports, equipment, etc. (You know, as SEAGOING vessels. You think rising seas and changed 'shorelines' might be of interest to the USN? Or they just a bunch of WIMPS?)

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    I see government as the only way TO stop it. What other way is there?
     
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    No way exist, none. Our government is a splash in the pot, and in reality its fining people doing it... not really preventing them from doing it.
     
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    So we just don't do anything? Continue to do the same things we didn that made this happen?
     
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    The poll is pure agenda driven BS.

    Shame on anyone so stupid as to believe it.
     
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    So? Most Americans are woefully mis- and under-informed about the issues they nevertheless have an opinion about.
     
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    Then surely SOMEONE can tell us what remediation on sea level will be effective, how much will it cost and what exactly will we get for the money.

    No? Can't answer basic pragmatic economic questions? Best to zip it. Your ignorance is driving pure agenda.
     
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    Yes another example of the government and public waste of resources over the global warming hysteria.

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    Made what happen, there is zero, zilch, nada evidence anything man has done has affected climate.

    But do tell me what is the proper global temperature and tell me to the .01 degree Fahrenheit and how you came about this number.
     
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    Can't you answer it for yourself whether or not our activities are a problem; http://all-that-is-interesting.com/pollution-in-china-photographs#17? Damn man, what's it going to take?
     
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    Ask them how much they are willing to pay to "fix" climate change. That should put an end to the climate change debate.
     
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    What government has stopped it before?

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    There is no science that says it can be fixed, damn man what is it going to take.
     
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    It's your claim and since our activities have kept the temperature stable for the last 15 years seems we need to keep them up. Else give me your definitive evidence that man's activies have changed global temperatures other than what they would have been.

    You know we all can postulate, like what if in fact had it not been for our activities we would have been in an ice age, would that be better than what we have now? I mean if you are going to assert that man's activities have caused warming to such a degree that we MUST act and since we aren't all that warm compared to history that means me we would be freezing without those activities.

    So why on earth, forgive the pun, should we stop what we are doing and start freezing our arse off?
     
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    former Senators Kennedy and Kerry also donated to the Alliance and opposed Cape Wind. Of course that was omitted .


    http://www.wsj.com/articles/mass-ut...o-buy-power-generated-by-cape-wind-1420663547

    The result could spell money-raising trouble for the project, which has long been on track to be the first offshore wind farm in the U.S. but has faced repeated delays over the last 14 years amid protracted legal fights with its main opponent, the Alliance to Protect Nantucket Sound. Republican donor and energy businessman William Koch is an Alliance board member.
     
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    Yep, because money is more important than the lives on this planet.
     
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    You are correct and that goes both ways. The government would only rake in more billions in tax dollars and grant exemptions to political allies and the only effect would be more money out of the average persons pocket and continued harassment of the individual.

    The only thing the government could do...but is incapable of doing...is planning ahead for the trials that are surely coming.
     
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    Freedom is more important than being a slave to the state.
     
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    Yep, you certainly will love your freedom as our planet slowly engulfs us with water from melting ice.
     
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    Where is your evidence that that will happen? You surely don't believe Al Gore the proven liar do you?
     
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    You anarchists need to recognize the total impossibility of humans surviving if more than a tiny percent agree with you.
     
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