The lady should have known better, but then again, any 55 year old who still goes screaming around on a motorcycle, is a likely Tea Party supporter, probably can't be convinced in a rational manner:
Bra holsters are retarded. You cover yourself with a loaded firearm when drawing, holstering, and sitting down. Horizontal shoulder holsters are retarded. You cover yourself, and others, when drawing, holstering, and just being present in an occupied room (even if a gun is holstered, pointing it at people is inexcusable imo). Vertical shoulder holsters are retarded for many of the same reasons, less pointing a loaded, holstered, firearm at people be just being in a room. Appendix holsters are retarded for the obvious testicle removing dangers. Waistband holsters are the way to go. Some people are stupid with guns, we should all handle them all as if they are loaded, at all times, do not point them at yourself or others. Ever. And be vocal is someone is demonstrating poor muzzle control. When I take noobies out shooting I am very strict on gun handling, and I inform them "Keep the guns pointed down range at all times. Everything I brought today, including the 22, will kill someone if handled improperly." Most I see better gun handling from noobies then the "der been round' dem guns fer yearz" folks who think its cool to tool around with a loaded 1911 if their finger is off the trigger.
that is just one model of one. There are others where the firearm is to the side and barrel pointing downward We do not know what she had
Haven't seen one like that. Doesn't mean anything, I don't wear bras so I'm not an expert. I would think there is a greater (but still very small) chance of flagging your own face with it this way though.
This thread is hilarious. Someone questions how some gun owners handle their weapons and the right wing says they are calling for banning guns and argue against that strawman instead of discussing the topic.
a kid drown in a pool last week in my hometown.... maybe we should ban all pools.... you know, because of safety
I wonder, was she a responsible gun owner? Should a person of such incompetence own a gun? One less vote for the NRA.
I figure the Darwin rule came into play on this one. As an aside I have to wonder why libs continue with their futile gun ban articles and posts. If they could not get federal gun confiscation bills passed in the Democratically controlled Senate after Newtown what hope do they have now that the country is headed to the right ideologically and the GOP has both chambers. http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx
Why is it so hard for socialist, anti-gun people to understand the nature of risk? Yes, there is an element of risk with firearms ownership. Even if we had no firearms, there would be an element of risk by relying on police for protection. There is an element of risk associated with relying on police to protect you. Will they get there in time to help you? Will they be bribed to look the other way? You can't eliminate risk with regulations.
You don't think that smoke should be investigated for fire, instead of being dismissed out of hand? I can see where your coming from, but I doubt anyone is against more education on gun safety then not, but unfortunately whenever the conversation comes up it seems like Gun safety comes second to the 2nd amendment.
I can say the four firearm safety rules the Marine Corps taught me in my sleep, verbatim. And I probably do, because I said it so much. Fired tens of thousands of rounds from virtually every weapons system, as did the 40 or so other jarheads with me over four years, and never saw one NEGLIGENT discharge. We didn't call it accidental. You either take gun safety so seriously that you're a freak about it, or you're careless, in my opinion. You should never break a gun safety rule, never, for no reason. If you don't, I can almost 100% guarantee you'll never shoot yourself or anyone else. Especially not "adjusting" the gun in its holster, wherever the holster is located.
Not at all, and I don't contend that Guns don't save lives. Believe me, I'm a Pro Gun guy. But as I said above, it always seems to me that the 2nd amendment comes 1st, while Safety comes second. Which is butt-backwards IMO.
In practical terms, I don't know what you mean by that. Should we amend the Constitution to mandate gun safety, making it at least on the same level as the Second Amendment?
I read the article? ... an active member of the Christian Motorcycle Association. Last summer, she was elected as a Republican Precinct Delegate for Saint Joseph Charter Precinct 1.Her Facebook page is filled with Bible verses, and information about organizing for the Republican Party. Several recent posts complained about Common Core education standards, and about President Barack Obama. Other posts depicted black protesters in Ferguson as dangerous rioters. All of that says 'Christian fundamentalist' to me and, at least around these parts, that says Tea Party even without all of the Republican associations.
Should? Probably. Could? Probably not. Safety and Guns should go together like the 2 Ms on the Candy. All gun ownership should require safety training IMO, but again, anytime something like that is brought up, all I see is people freaking out because they think it's a conspiracy to grab their guns.
I'm not opposed to states mandating safety. Hunter's safety is required in my state to get a hunting license. You need to pass a driving test to get a driver's license because of road safety. No, it has nothing to do with rights vs. privileges, and I won't get into that discussion. We don't want people driving that don't know how to drive. I will not go to a public shooting range because most of the people there aren't safe enough for me.
Yeah, up here you have to go through a checklist to get your PAL, which allows you to own and operate certain unrestricted firearms. I think that should be a requirement for Gun Ownership. I'm curious as to why you don't think the larger argument isn't over Rights vs Privileges? I mean, technically, once you require some sort of 'barrier to ownership', then it's not really a right per say, but a privilege of those who can pass the barrier to ownership (in this case, a license). Driving isn't a right, specifically singled out by the constitution, so while I see the comparison, I'm not sure it fits into that argument.
There are restrictions on all of our Constitutional rights. Speech - yelling fire in a theater. Assembly - as long as you got the permit. Religion - as long as you're not marrying three women. Gun ownership - well, you know the restrictions.
I agree, if one makes firearms safety into a natural act the odds of shooting ones self or anyone else accidentally is nearly non-existent. I was a Grunt in the Army and a Unit Armorer and worked with a room full of various weapons and NEVER had one go off on it's own, I always takes a person to make the tool work. Even today I treat all firearms as if they are loaded unless I have the weapon disassembled for cleaning, in my home they usually are loaded (no children in the house) so treating them as such is simply common sense. As for the topic, I have never actually heard of bra holsters, jeeez what would be the point it would be hard to retrieve the weapon and having a loaded weapon pointed at my vitals is not exactly what I would think is really bright or safe, here are far more safe and more easily accessible than in ones bra, besides I would look funny in a bra and do not think the look would work for me.
Where does that say only tea party members ride motorcycles after 55 ? Because what you just showed as evidence comes noting close to your crazy comments.