Ginsburg: Pro-life laws are a ‘crying shame’, make it harder for poor to get abortion

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  1. Flintc

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    Did better than you did. I sperm is human, and it is alive. Try again.

    Part of every one of us was once a sperm. Try again.

    Of course, this is all beside the point. We're talking about human RIGHTS here, not life. Even as adults, we condone killing for many purposes - in war, and for self defense, and for policement in the line of duty, and for capital punishment. These killings are condoned because they are within our RIGHTS.

    Kindly address the topic for a change.
     
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    Every Reaganite basement dwelling popinjay, that's who.
     
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    Wow--------------Ginsburg wants to make it easier for the poor to commit murder.
     
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    Wow, the republicans want to make it harder for all of us to control our lives through exercising choice, based STRICTLY on a religious doctrine which is to be EXCLUDED from government at all levels.

    What. A. Sideshow.
     
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    It does not have a complete genome and is a gamete, try again.

    Half or your first genome was carried by a sperm but wasn't you yet. It took a complete genome to become you. Had that sperm been put in a petri dish and kept alive for 50 years it still would not be a human being. Try again.

    It is directly to the point of when you were created and since our rights come from that creation endowed by your creator......

    Not if if violates that right to life, not if it is innocent life.
     
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    Now if a conservative had said this, the left would be out of their minds claiming racism.
     
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    Life begins at conception, a Person is not present at that time since there is no Brain for them to live in, hence it is not a Person at conception, SHRED THAT.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    It is human with a complete genome and is being.

    n. noun
    1. A living human.
     
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    Living, yes.
    Human DNA with the potential to become a Person, yes.
    A Person, no.
     
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    Adjective : Human

    Noun: A human.


    There's a difference...
     
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    The "crying shame", as it were, Madame Justice Ginsberg, is that 53 million Americans have been ruthlessly murdered on the altar of convenience since 1973.

    I suspect that not even the most hardened eugenicists would have suspected so many would die. They presumed that when they said abortion should be 'safe, legal, and rare', back in the day, that people would actually pay heed to the idea of it being 'rare'.

    53 million Americans. 53 million people who could have been paying taxes and supporting the nation. Who did we kill that could have been the one to cure a disease? Invent a new technology that could have saved lives? Start a business and give members of their community jobs?

    53 million Americans. We would bow our heads if we even had any shame left.
     
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    Can't be an American until you're born.


    Ya, 53 million more out of a job.........paying taxes (if they have a job) to support 53 million more people(that's a lot of taxes).....and how many on Welfare.....and how many murderers, thieves, rapists, con artists, crooks( they ARE more common than the miracle workers you think would come in masses) .
     
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    We guarantee a 'right to life' in our founding document. Your leftist killing of babies has shredded that.
     
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    Our founding document only speaks of People, a one week old fetus is not a Person. I have never killed a baby, and babies are not killed in early pregnancy abortions because one has to have developed to a point were you can be referred to as a Person to be a Baby, that is why that in the early stages it is referred to as a fetus, not a baby. Whine and stomp your feet all you want but you Know I am right.
     
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    "Leftists " don't kill babies.

    However, leftists AND Rightists do have abortions.

    Right to life is for BORN humans.
     
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    In 30-odd states the unborn are accorded full legal protection from harm, identical to the born. Tell us the difference.
     
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    Nobody is killing babies.
     
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    The decision rests with the mother. If she wants an abortion, she can have one. If someone terminates the pregnancy without her consent, that is illegal.

    Pretty sure you knew that already.
     
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    Doesn't matter. If it is a human sperm, it is human.

    I didn't say "human being", I said human. Human sperm are human.

    This is a statement of religous doctrine. It is not a fact.

    I think you are agreeing with me despite yourself. The issue here, as you notice, isn't biology, it is social convention. Rights are social conventions. We agree that in certain situations (I listed several), the social convention is that we can lose that right. In battle, the right to life doesn't exist for anyone. Yet I wouldn't say all soldiers are guilty ipso facto. They know the conventions.
     
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    Laws, whether good or bad do not override the reality of science or logic. There used to be laws that said man could beat his wife so long as the object was not over a certain size, laws based on emotion rarely survive the test of time and logic.
     
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    So you punt.

    Noted.
     
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    Meh, in the end Ginsburg is actually a gift, too stupid stubborn to retire while there's a liberal in the White House and likely to end her tenure to the other side, that would be justice indeed...
     
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    You can't get a clearer picture of a sense of superiority than this. I've long maintained that abortion is a legal expression of bigotry.

    Bravo, sir.
     
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    Too bad you could not grasp the simple concept I presented to you, life is full of choices, closing or opening ones mind to concepts that disagree with their preconceived ideas is one of those choices.
     
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    It's difficult to square this fact with the unbridled desire to kill babies in the womb.
     

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