DN: " Putin secret Ukraine plan"

DN: " Putin secret Ukraine plan", as we all knew ...comments?

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I don't believe it. Who is Malofejev? He is nobody. All important decision in Russia are made by Putin and small circle of FSB officers. I don't believe that Russia anexed Crimea because some oligarch Malofejev advised him to so. Besides nobody would let such important document to be leaked to the Russian press.

No, this letter is not why Russia took Crimea. Putin made this decision by himself and the reason why exactly he did it won't be leaked while he is in the office.

 

what secret? putin wants to restore the empire, everyone knows it. The Ukraine is russias bread basket, without it Russia is most all permafrost.

 

Putin doesnt really have to do anything since washington has started supplying the DPR with all the weapons they need.
25th February 2015, city Donetsk, Donetsk republic

After the retreat of the army and the fascist battalions of Kiev junta from Debaltsevo cauldron, there were found following trophies without damage or with minor injury:

Tanks - 187 units;
APC of different types - 124;
Self-propelled artillery of different types - 68;
Cannons - 52;
MLRS of different types - 24;
Mortars of different types - 278;
Trucks - 139;
Command and office vehicles - 43;
Radars, vehicles for communication - 46; including Radar "LCMR-AN/TPQ - 48"

Firearms, ammunition, rations, first aid kits, night vision devices, etc. - in very large quantities.

Source of information - Head of Department of Information in Ministry of Defense of Donetsk republic.
https://www.facebook.com/VladBreeg/posts/896005050450425

Kiev junta and its masters are real weapon suppliers of Donetsk and Lugansk republics.

Konstantin

 

Listen Ukraine at least East Ukraine belong with russia, thats what the people living there want. Those same people who did not have a vote in dividing from the Union, a decision made by corrupt traitors without listening to the will of the people. I applaud Putin for giving these people a right to self determination,the same self determination the Kosovars fought for .

As far as the Baltic Teutonic Nazi loving "states", better start moving your baltic asses to Sweden.

 

Crimean residents protest against forced Ukranization in lost footage from 1993 (video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pCT7DwPUlbk

They protested it 21 years ago. They never wanted to be part of Ukraine.

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NATO Military Parade in Narva, Estonia, greeted by...Russian flag and Soviet national anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iKiFCIS2GJU

Same today.

 

did you read whole article?

 

its not true, Moscovites are simply too bad land owners , try to compare Belorusian or Polish agriculture productivities with Moscovite one...

 

really? why did they vote for Poroshenko in this case?
Baltic Teutonic ? this something new ... why Teutonic ?

ps you are just a marginal , you represent marginal groups (UFO, Far-left/right, conspiracists, etc.) which have 0 influence on American politic and you know it.

 

How many Ukrainian troops were in the cauldron when Kiev held it?

 

Yes, I crossed your articles with my eyes and it would be nice of you not to double first paragraphs in them. I've also read this document in Russian in Novaya Gazeta. It doesn't even look like a document. It looks more like a letter with personal recomendations of what would be best to do.

Again. It is known that Putin makes decisions for Ukraine by himslef consulting only small circle of people from FSB. No one would ever leak documents from those meetings.

 

" Putin secret Ukraine plan"



Putin periodically fills with fog to Ukraine and his army of ''green little men'' seizes new territories!

 

i this case you missed something, 1) its clear to everyone that Малофеев (Malofeev) acted on Putler´s behave and it was Putler who took the final decision. question, how did they think to legalize occupation of Crimea and Donbass? did they really thing that Ukraine ´d simply collapsed?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAx8sFLLOfU
Cry Baby Yatsenyuk begging Obama: Let's fight together against Russians!

I guess he feels abandoned after washington caused the chaos then ran out when they got caught in that leaked Nuland phone call.

 

This is a splendid idea! Entire Ukraine is Russia as it always was. EU and USA did not realize the fact.

 

Russia will take what they have before and soon USSR born again

 

Poroshenko was voted in without major parts of Ukraine being involved, during a time of conflict after the previously elected goverment was forced out by a western backed coup. So don't give me that baloney.

 

you are a lier or just a complete ....., Green - Poroshenko

 

in your dreams, LOL you guys lost 2 wars to 2 000 sheepherders , teachers, peasants . chance that you will take over entire Ukraine is well below 0

 

I don't see your point. My point is that even if this document isn't totally fake it is not something important. I'm sure for 100%. Putin didn't occupy Crimea because some Malofeyev convinced him to do so. Taking away Crimea was a long time Putin's threat against Ukraine. Why he decided to realise it when he realised it is still a mystery for everybody except for a very small circle of people. And I'm not really interested. I'm just sad that so many people support it and even more people don't support but are afraid to do something about it. Or even say.

 

that article and also another one "explaining" that Putin is autist, are typical of the post-events smoke screen.
Facts are that from november 2013 to february 2014, Kiev saw an incredible amount of foreign ingerence: Ashton, McCain, Nuland and few others.
Facts are that the banderists groups and milicias are a well known feature of post-soviet ukrainian political life. Dozen of academic papers, and few books have kept record of that for years. Even the European Commission and the Council of Europe did publish reports about banderism back in the beginning 2000'. A specialized research group in a german university has also published on the topic (the Hannah Arendt Institute).
So these banderists have been used in Kiev as milicias against the berkut, in very agressive ways, that would not be tolerated by any of the western european "democracies".
The 21.02.14 a deal was signed between the then leaders of the "opposition" ie. Klitchko, Tyagnybok (the banderist), Yatseniuk (the current pm, Nuland "appointed") and the formet president Yanukovich. Under supervision of three european foreign ministers, Fabius, Sikorski, Steinmeier. The day after, as soon as Yanukovich implemented the first point of the deal, ie. the removal of berkut, the banderist milicias interrupted the parliamentary session, parts of representants left and a group implemented the "destitution" of Yanukovich.
It has a name: a coup. Period.
Then two days after the new parliament voted a law repelling the linguistical rights in non-ukrainian regions. The law was hold by the interim president, but it had been known around in the meanwhile. The ways of the coup in Kiev, the anti-russian nazi-like hatred of the Galicians and the supression of the linguistical law did trigger the revolt in Donetsk and fear of galician-driven kievan government in Crimea. That's how it started.
The problem with the linguistical law has nothing to do with any kind of russian propaganda, because one of the first to react were the hungarian of Zakarpattia. For instance, from the 25.02:
http://www.politics.hu/20140225/scr...-democratic-commitment-says-foreign-ministry/
"The foreign ministry’s political director expressed serious concerns to the Ukrainian ambassador over the recent decision of the Ukrainian parliament to withdraw the country’s law on regional languages, at their meeting in Budapest on Monday.
Szabolcs Takacs held talks with Yuriy Muska to discuss developments in Ukraine and inform the ambassador about the Budapest meeting of foreign ministers of the Visegrad Four countries, and Bulgaria, Romania and Greece, the ministry said in a statement.
The Ukrainian parliament’s Sunday decision of scrapping the language law which ensured regional status for several languages in that country including Hungarian, “could question the commitment of the new Ukrainian administration towards democracy,” Takacs said.
Hungary had already indicated its concerns to its European partners, he added."
Zakarpattia magyars were happier under Yanukovich than under the predecessors because, despite no change in ukrainian inner corruption, at least they, hungarians, had legal status for their language in their region.
That example gives an idea about the smoke screen used to dismiss facts by pretending that russian propaganda is at work. It's enough to look at the other minorities, like the hungarian, to see how much they are upset by the galicians ultranationalism.
Crimea went back "home" to Russia, and Donetsk succeded in separating despite the heavy war brought upon them by Kievans, so another level of post-events, post-mortem anti-russian agit-prop is triggered in some medias from the "W€$t®©".

 

" because some Malofeyev " DN or NG never said it. Malofeyev was just a meddle-hand in this game

" Crimea was a long time Putin's threat against Ukraine" +1

 

And that newspaper, Novaja Gazeta, is a radical rag, bent on harming the present Russian Government... Putin etc.
Check the headline:

Opposition newspaper Novaya Gazeta given official warning over “extremism”​

The warning, issued on Friday, came in response to an article by journalist Yulia Latynina entitled:

"If we aren’t the West, then who are we?",
in which the author draws parallels between Russia’s current political leaders and the fascist regime in Germany in the 1930s and 1940s.

Accusing the publication of “inciting social, racial, national and religious hatred”, Roskomnadzor, the Russian state media watchdog, forced Novaya Gazeta to block parts of the article deemed offensive.

Comparing Russian politicians to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, the redacted paragraphs read:

“Russian official powers, deputies…have invented a separate ‘Russian culture’, which contradicts European soullessness… Hitler, in Mein Kampf, opposes the harsh, Nordic cultural topics of European development and soullessness. This is typically characteristic of fascism: under the pretense of freeing a nation from a ‘foreign culture’, the nation is freed from any culture altogether and is plunged into times and customs of barbarism."

Now, that is pretty hefty and certainly written with the intent of inciting hatred and unrest. I would even go so far as saying, they want to topple Putin.

Therefore, litwin, take what Novaja Gazeta writes with a grain of salt.

Read all here:
http://calvertjournal.com/news/show...-gazeta-given-official-warning-over-extremism

 

anything democratic is a radical rag in Putler´s Rashka. remind my RF:s place in all free press indexes please?