Black Groups to Protest the 'Too White' Oscar Ceremony

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  1. publican

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    Then if you have no proof, don't make the claim.

    So you prefer to ignore the 15th and the data I supplied showing that black turnout was high before the useless act in 1965. IWO, ignore the truth. :roll::yawn:
     
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    Do "black groups" do anything but protest.
     
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    Does this mean Whites have a license to boycott the "too black NFL" next season?
     
  4. publican

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    Democrats wanted nothing to do with it. They filibustered the CRA in 1964.

    Put up proof of 'southern states worked hard to get around it'.
    CRA had zero to do with voting and the VRA was redundant per the 15th. There were no loopholes in the 15th. When blacks were being denied the right to vote per Jim Crow, the 15th was being violated. What is so hard to understand? Andwhen southern dems were lynching blacks, murder statutes were being violated as well as the BOR. So what did the CRA implement that was not already their for black via the 15th and the BOR? :confusion:
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/upshot/black-turnout-in-1964-and-beyond.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1

    And I haven't changed any horse. The Jimmy Crow laws made it so that there was apartheid rule of the Caucasians/Jews over the colored community.

    Also from wiki about apartheid rule with your precious 15th amendement going strong:
    Southern states legalized disenfranchisement by enacting Jim Crow laws; they amended their constitutions and passed legislation to impose various voting restrictions, including literacy tests, poll taxes, property-ownership requirements, moral character tests, requirements that applicants interpret particular documents, and grandfather clauses that allowed otherwise-ineligible persons to vote if their grandfathers voted (which excluded many African Americans whose grandfathers had been slaves or otherwise ineligible).[16][18] During this period, the Supreme Court generally upheld efforts to discriminate against racial minorities.
     
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    What is your link supposed to prove? Black turnout was 60% in 1964 one year before the useless law and Jim Crow laws were in violation of the existing 15th. So why wasn't the 15th enforced everywhere since it gave blacks the right to vote?
     
  7. notme

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    There were loopholes. The apartheid states applied restrictions to voting rights equal to all. The installed literacy tests, poll taxes, property-ownership requirements, moral character tests, requirements that applicants interpret particular documents. This banned all the poor people from voting equally. So they than installed "grandfather clauses", making it so that if your grandfather was able to vote, than you were excused from the restrictions. This way poor white people were able to vote, since their grandfathers voted previously. Leaving the ex-slaves with nothing.

    Do note that no race was mentioned. But in spirit this was totally aimed as apartheid rule of the Caucasian/white population over the black/colored community.
     
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    Whatever... The whites have already conceded in certain cities (Detroit)... And in certain countries (south africa). It's time to move on... Moveon.org. Give it a few more years, and Ferguson Mo, will be conceded too. I wonder how well that city will turn out...
     
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    Show me...............

    Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
    Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]
     
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    I did in my previous post:
    The apartheid states applied restrictions to voting rights equal to all. The installed literacy tests, poll taxes, property-ownership requirements, moral character tests, requirements that applicants interpret particular documents. This got all the poor people banned from voting equally among all races. So they than installed "grandfather clauses", making it so that if your grandfather was able to vote, than you were excused from these restrictions. This way poor white people were able to vote, since their grandfathers voted previously. Leaving the ex-slaves with nothing.
     
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    So you are basically telling us that black folks just didn't want to vote between 1870 and 1964.
     
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    All black groups have to do is blame al Sharpton and conservatives will agree and call the oscars racist
     
  13. publican

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    Who is 'us'? I'm talking to you. So you're basically telling me that blacks could not and did not vote between 1870-1965. I see you changed the year to suit your baseless claims.

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    Then they were in violation of previous Constitutional law. What did the VRA do that the 15th didn't do?
     
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    Surely I am not the only one reading these weak posts of yours.

    Yea one year wow that really changes things. I guess the other 94 just don't count. The Votings Right Act was 1965 the 1964 CRA actually allowed blacks to vote even though there was still heavy opposition in the South. The VRA just solidified the right.
     
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    Yet you're the only one with weak responses.

    The one year I cited that showed 60% of blacks voted. Ty to be honest if possible and put the right years up. Prove the other years had less turnout.And the 15th took care of black's voting rights. Look it up.
     
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    Explain too me why so many black folks and white folks lost their lives during the 50s and 60s for black folks to have this right if it was already available to them.
     
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    Show me where the 15th didn't give blacks the right to vote. Try to stay on topic.
     
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    See this is where you lose the argument. The 15th gave black folks the right to vote, but many states adopted new legislation that got around giving blacks that right ie. poll taxes, literacy tests, etc. So the VRA pretty much took away all the loop holes that mainly southern states were using to get around the 15th. Got it now.
     
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    Which is what I have always said. Get it yet?
     
  20. superbadbrutha

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    No, you don't get it because if you did you wouldn't keep posting this jibberish.
     
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    It's common knowledge that the average left wing Hollywood type is a racist. What's newsworthy here?
     
  22. publican

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    The 15th, which is Constitutional law, is 'gibberish'? Tell black people that.
     
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    Then the black members can vote based on race. That'll make things better. Oh, wait...maybe that'll be just as bad.
     
  24. superbadbrutha

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    No the poll taxes, literacy tests, etc. that got around the 15th was gibberish. They did tell us that is why the VRA was signed into Law.



    Hopefully that will help you to understand the need for the VRA, eventhough, the 15th Amend was in place.
     
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    Then I win, you lose.
     

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