I'm not really concerned about music and film. I'm worried about crimes that actually have victims and cause concrete harm. Every piece of research I've seen has shown that we are currently living in the safest century ever, in terms of things that we should actually be concerned about, like murder and rape. I care more about people dying in the streets than "dying" on the screen.
YES. programed by society. Today's society is hard and rough around the edges but we're not barbaric The only people who are barbaric are ×Insane ×3rd world country where state of society is virtually none existent. ×Base thier society off a religion 1 is crazy 1 lacks lacks almost evything that makes a society and the other is just as bad as the other 2 combined.
The murder and rape rate is no where near as bad as it was. Such actions are not ecceptible in today's society. Back then a murchant can cut your hand off for steeling. What would happen in today's day and age? Plus we have mass media.such such cases are more known.
I've been thinking about this OP. And I wonder if he/she doesn't really feel this way but is trying to make a point about Christianity being just as bad as Islam. Or the OP is Gay and has a thing against Christianity. No one has ever been traumatized by the mythology of Hell. Or I wonder if he is trying to invent a new polity. A way to show politeness which never before existed. I remember the start of such a thing. It was when Larry King had only a radio show. But it was THE most popular radio show in America. Before Art Bell. Before Rush Limbaugh. It was all night long and it was very interesting. Callers would call in and they'd start talking. Then, one night someone happened to thank Larry for taking their call. A silly thing to say because that was his job. It struck me as being like thank you for picking up the phone. But it caught on. And now you can't listen to a call in show without hearing someone thank the host for taking their call. Even shows which don't screen the callers beforehand. ANYWAY... If Godless heathen atheist parents were to suddenly cite the desire to spare their Godless, heathen atheist children the trauma of the hell mythology as the reason for not raising them as Christians we will know that this society has hit the rock bottom of the bizarro barrel.
The vast majority of both Muslims and Christians are very similar in their willingness to believe the preposterous and most are peaceful and law-abiding, but both are capable of producing dangerous radical nutcases who use their holy books to justify their actions. Many Christians are gay and many Christian churches welcome gay people. Not all Christians are bigots. No one? Ever? What a stupid and arrogant thing to say. Children who are brainwashed with the belief that hell is a very real place are traumatised by the certainty that they will end up there if they aren't 'good'. The idea that Hell is a myth is not one that has been held by the majority of Christians for most of the history of the religion. I went to Catholic schools in the fifties, and I definitely believed in it and lived for a number of years with the fear that I would go there. What is your point here? That it is 'silly' to thank someone for doing their job? This society is slowly dragging itself out of the 'bizarro barrel' of religion, and will be much the better for it.
We all brainwash our children, that's how we are able to have a society. You just don't like the topic of the brainwashing in this particular example.
It should be illigal (sic) to post thinges(sic) with childish spelling mistakes and improper grammar along with no periods or unplaced commas as well.
Speaking as someone who was traumatized by the mythology of Hell for 14 years, your comment is as ill-informed as it is callous.
My post completely went over your head didn't it? I've known families who baptized their child and later made him go to church. Some Christian families are so strict that they make the child read the bible. I don't know about you but no child that I know wants to sit for 2 hours hearing a old man talk. This should be illigal.baptisms before a child can even talk. Also religion has nothing to do with values. It was illigaly to kill and steal and all the other things long before the 10 commendment. Society learned long ago when they first started forming groups. you needed as many people as you can to survive. If people were allowed to kill anyone their society would have crumbled long ago. So you make conflict and everything causing conflict illegal.
This can never be illigal because we're in USA. But at least such parents should be treated in the same manner as parents who force their child into a cult
I did not state, or even imply that they could not be. The post I was replying to only mentioned 'gay'. Some Christians are gay, I should not have used the word 'many'. I am sure that the majority of Christians are heterosexual, to a greater or lesser degree.
If a pedophile can be a Christian, then Christianity is most charitably described as worthless. You do get that, right?
That's kind of a misrepresentation. While 84% might claim to be a member of a specific religion, only 26% are evangelical Christian so the number of parents teaching the reality of "hell" is not nearly so many as you insinuate. In addition, more and more people are not affiliating with religion so that 84% is actually closer to 80% and it continues to drop as religion becomes more and more obsolete. That said - I don't care what any evangelical, Catholic, Buddhist or Muslim teaches their children. As long as they keep it to themselves, it's not my business. It does not, however belong in schools or other public venues.
You are apparently incapable of adding anything useful to the discussion, but you don't like what he said, so you criticise the trivial. It is possible that English is not the first language of the OP. Even if it is, all of us are not necessarily competent in all things. How many languages are you capable of writing in, even less than perfectly?
Maybe I should have said "nominally Christian', but it would be a bit awkward using that qualifier every time I used the word 'Christian'. Apart from that, it is not my place to decide who is or is not, in fact, Christian.
I know, I know, the same lessons that teach us to be civil are just so passe! So, who's brainwashing is acceptable?
And yet, although the Bible explicitly outlaws homosexuality and condemns it with death, it does not mention any laws against pedophilia at all. There are no laws in the Bible that set an acceptable age for marriage, and even sleeping with or raping an unmarried woman is only "punishable" by marriage. Yeah, I'd definitely call a book that punishes consensual homosexual sex more harshly than rape "most charitably . . . as worthless".
Teaching children how to interact socially can hardly be called brainwashing. Teaching children what to think can justifiably be called that.
Muslims believe in hell. It's called Jahannam Christians believe in hell Hindu believe in hell. It's called Naraka and Jews can't decide Virtually all religions believe in hell
So, who's type of social interaction are you going to approve of? This line of reasoning, of course, is terribly condescending. You don't have to teach children how to be bad and you cannot make anyone think what you want. Too many parents have found that out as their kids decide to leave whatever religion they were taught.
Within Christianity are many denominations, only the evangelicals hold a literal belief of Hell as a place of torment. Other denominations are much more liberal in their translation of the scriptures. Even more don't believe in a literal Satan or demons. No matter how you try to paint the picture - the beliefs are different. Even if they were the same - it would make no difference. It is up to parent to decide if they want to raise their children in a religion. Religion has no place in schools or other public venues. It's really that simple.
The type of social interaction that is generally approved by the society that they live in. Such as common courtesy. Children generally think what their parents have taught them to think. Some discard or modify that thinking when they are old enough to reason for themselves. Some do not. .
