Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data.

Hi DennisTate,

I'm not saying that their aren't conspiracies out there, but perhaps you shouldn't spend so much time considering them.

We don't know what's true or not. And spending too much time considering the what ifs and what's true or not can make some people a little crazy in the head. ( I know about this personally.)

Anyway we won't know about the UFOs for now. They didn't release anything yet. Read more:
Outgoing Obama aide Podesta: I missed the chance to spill UFO secrets

 

Good point!

I just found out powerful evidence that the USA Federal Reserve may actually be doing an exceptionally good job.

What I had read about this issue in the past gave me a very different impression?!


I just read powerful evidence that the Federal Reserve is doing an excellent job.

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...ence-federal-reserve-doing-excellent-job.html

 

The space aliens didn't help the Federal Reserve...

Or did they?

No they didn't.

 

Thats what Montezuma said in his own time .

 

Well............. maybe they did?!



Daniel 4:17

We Americans and Canadians......… we are terribly flawed....... our grandparents shot and trapped and then boiled, barbecued, fried and poached ...… passenger pidgeons into extinction......… and we even shot buffalo from the windows of trains....... so.........… we really cannot feel like a superior race of people......… but............. we really do rule and lead this planet.... through our superior monetary system..... through our media..... and our outreach to other nations?!


"

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

Maybe.........… our ancestors were guided to come over here to North America........ almost like part of a massive reality film series............. that has multiple endings based on our decisions.......... and is profoundly affected by our beliefs.

Maybe we are being set up to lead this world into a much better way of doing agriculture and business.... not to mention raising kids???!


http://www.near-death.com/storm.html#a04

 

Heh, perhaps... like Star Trek, there is a "protocol" to not interfere. A galactic UN that most aliens are signed up to What's the equivalent to AAA for UFOs?

 

The world is one big experiment. With everyone doing their own thing, and sometimes now or then, sometimes from pure dumb luck, someone comes up with something that works better than average. Then, new opportunities pop up.

 

I started this topic a while back after reading some members disparage other members for just mentioning the concept that there must exist other life in a Universe as vast as this one and certainly not just many forms of life but many forms of INTELLIGENT LIFE as well.

I was struck by the stupidity and almost violent replies by some members who not only without any evidence of their own replied to other members suggesting that life must exist elsewhere in a Universe so vast as our own but even worse these members started MAKING FUN OF THOSE OTHER MEMBERS SUGGESTING THAT THE MATHEMATICAL ODDS ARE HIGHLY IN FAVOR OF LIFE EXISTING THROUGH OUT THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE.

I don't like people who make fun of others and I don't like MORONS who can barely make heads or tails of a basic HIGH SCHOOL CHEMISTRY BOOK never mind understand basic PHYSICS.....making jokes about members who suggest with a Universe as vast as ours it is HIGHLY PROBABLE IN THE EXTREME that life exists not only on a few planets besides Earth but most liekly LIFE AND INTELLIGENT LIFE EXISTS IN VAST NUMBERS AND IN A HUGE NUMBER OF LOCATIONS THROUGH OUT THE UNIVERSE!!!

When doing PROBABILITY CALCULATIONS we first look at ONE SPECIFIC REALITY......and look at ONE SPECIFIC QUESTION....these two being the same are....DOES LIFE EXIST IN OUR UNIVERSE?

Answer....Yes.

Then we start asking other questions like...."DOES INTELLIGENT LIFE EXIST IN OUR UNIVERSE?"

Answer.....Yes.

List some species of INTELLIGENT LIFE.

Answer....Yes.

Humans
Gorillas
Bonobos
Orangutangs
Chimps
Monkeys
Dolphins
Porpoises
Whales
Various Birds such as Crows and Parrots
Dogs
Cats......and this list goes on for some length.

Then although there many indeed be many Life Forms that are not ORGANIC or CARBON BASED...in their Nature we start with what we KNOW and calculate the approx. number of Planets that exist in the GOLDILOCKS ZONE....like Earth....a planet that is not too far away from our Type and Size of Star thus capable of supporting LIFE.

When this calculation is done using approx. 100 Billion Glaxies although there many be as many as 200 Billion Galaxies in our FINITE UNIVERSE....because contrary to popular belief OUR UNIVERSE IS NOT INFINITE....then use 100 Billion Stars as an average number per Galaxy as some Galaxies hold over 500 Billion Stars and some hold as little as 60 Billion or perhaps less......and then using the number of calculated stars like Earth's Star and then using the calculated number of Planets that woyuld be in the GOLDILOCKS ZONE....then.....

Then doing the same for stars that are either Larger, hotter, smaller, colder than our Sun and calculate the variable distances.....then calculate additional LIFE BEARING CELESTIAL BODIES where life could exist as it exists 7 Miles down or deeper under the Earth's Oceans where life is TEAMING IN GREAT NUMBERS....arounf deep ocean Volcanic Vents....then calculate the amount of Planets or Celestial Bodies capable of having Microbial Life as Earth Does......IN VAST AMOUNTS.....as these is more Microscopic Microbial Life existing inside our Planet than the weight of all other life forms in Earth's Oceans on it's Lands and it's Sky's than the amount of Microbial Life existing in the rock and dirt under the Earth's Surface.....and when we calculate all these things and perhaps 1000 other things I have failed to mention here...this is what PROBABILITY DICTATES.

Probability Dictates that the chances that EARTH is the only place in the Universe where life exists is 1 in 10^183

A STATISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY exists at 1 in 10^150th.

Now as I have posted before....several decades ago....I was asked to do a JOB.

As I am NOT MILITARY....I can say no.

But I agreed given the stakes.

I was then informed that because I agreed I would have to be brought up and read into a few things.

I WISH I HAD SAID NO!

There have been only 3 Presidents....and it would be 4 but FDR died before he could know all that was known at that time....that have been given the necessary CLEARANCE LEVEL ofr such Knowledge.

Just because a person is a STANDING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES....and without a doubt the most powerful man on Planet Earth....is not enough nor is it reason enough for that President to be given the Highest Security Clearance that exists.

Now as some members here who are or have been members of the NSA or DIA will probably remind all of you....there is only a few classifications of SECRET.

There is....SECRET.

Then there is.....TOP SECRET.

Everything else is a matter of COMPARTMENTALIZATION.

Except this.

When FDR died....President Truman was read into this issue and shortly after the end of WWII....there was TWO.....not one but TWO INCIDENTS that happened in the American Desert....at the same time.

Most people know the story so I won't waste time detailing it other than to say there was TWO CRASH SITES.

The Army Air Corps....as there was no such thing yet as the U.S. Air Force.....packed up everything and sent it to WILBUR WRIGHT FIELD......which is now WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE.

Since 1947, the year of the famous Roswell crash , there have been rumors that the US government has stored debris and artifacts from crash flying saucers, and even bodies of the small, alien crew members of the downed space ships. Much of the evidence of these crash retrievals leads us to Dayton, Ohio, and Wright-Patterson's Hangar-18.

Originally called Wilbur Wright Field, the government installation was first opened in 1917 to train military personnel during the first World War. Soon, Fairfield Air Depot was created, adjacent to Wright Field. In 1924, McCook Field test facility was closed, and the Dayton community purchased 4,500 acres which housed the various facilities. This took in the previously leased land of Wright Field, and the Wright and Fairfield facilities were combined into one. The newly created facility was named after the innovators of flight, the Wright Brothers.

On July 6, 1931, the area east of Huffman Dam, which included Wilbur Wright Field, Fairfield Air Depot, and the Huffman Prairie was renamed Patterson Field. This was to honor the memory of Lt. Frank Stuart Patterson. Patterson died in 1918, when a plane he was flying a test in, crashed after its wings separated from the craft. In 1948, the fields were merged under one name, Wright-Patterson AFB.

Wright-Patterson is instrumental in testing new weapon technology, along with research and development, education, and many other defense related operations. It is the home of the Air Force Institute of Technology, supporting the Air Force and the Department of Defense. The USAF's National Air & Space Intelligence Center is also part of Wright-Patterson.

The United States Air Force with the help of Special Forces, Special Teams and the CIA....been able to purchase or aquire Soviet, Chinese and now Russian built Aircraft which it first brings to Wright-Patterson's Reverse Engineering Division and takes these foreign aircraft apart rivet by revit...bolt by bolt....weld by weld.....analyzes them....them puts them back together.....except fpr the wings in most cases.....puts them in a C-5M or C-17....and flys them to a multitute of TEST AREAS....Area 51 or Groom Lake being one....and a few others.

They are tested in every way possible and many members I am sure have seen the videos of MiG-29's and other aircraft caught on video flying over Area 51 in the past.

I cannot discuss any other purchased or captured aircaraft or other besides these.

But I can say that the U.S. Military exists....not decades ahead.....but CENTURIES AHEAD of any other Nations Military and what we fly today is of OUR OWN CONSTRUCTION and is not incorporating any aspects of any other Nation or Entity.

For CRIPES SAKES....we were flying the HAVE BLUE PROGRAM....which is a Stealth Program and predecessor to the F-117....and the (XST) PROGRAM.....EXPERIMENTAL SURVIVABLE TESTBED...Programs back in 1975!!!!

The SR-71 was the very first Super High Speed Recon Aircraft that used Stealth and SR-71's have had many...many of the very best Soviet Made Ground to Air and Air to Air Missiles on them that never even came within 50 miles of an SR-71.

AboveAlpha

 

Well, the chances for life in the universe just got a lot better. I think I've even heard that they've found exo-planets that are the right distance away from their sun to support life and they even have water on them! The understanding of the universe is getting a whole lot richer. I feel like I don't adequately appreciate it.

Above top secret clearance sounds scary, and, if it's as bad as AboveAlpha says it is, I think I'd want to forget the whole thing. Maybe ask the right people to arrange for the use of an amnesia inducing chemical or biological agent for use on myself. And I would too, even if there were neurological side affects.

The military stuff that AboveAlpha posted reminds me that they're going to unveil a new stealth bomber soon (Next-gen stealth bomber is secret, but debate over cost is on the radar). I'm not sure I want to get into a centuries ahead stuff though. Sounds too secret. The kind of secret that people get a warning not to talk about it.

 

Funny thing is the USAF found out that they don't need to intimidate people like they did along with the Army Air Corps, FBI...etc...back in the 1950's and 1960's.

Thing is there are so many CRAZIES out there doing their work FOR THEM.....there is no need to deny anything.

All they have to say is..."We are unaware of what you are tellinf us. Would you be willing to come down to the base and fill out a statement and perhaps do a few drawings as to what you saw and it's velocity and direction it traveled?"

People then GET THIS BIG SMILE ON THEIR FACE!!!

They think they are being taken seriously which they are as such data is compiled and used!!!

But if those people ask a few months later after calling the base and ask..."Did you ever find out anything else about what I and others saw? The standard reply is..."No. But I wish we could get some more data as it might clear up some inconsistent radar data we have. Now I am not saying we have any proof of your claims...I am just saying that what you saw is IMPORTANT and we just want to do as good of a job as possible to protect the public and protect the PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES!"

After that.....how do you think that person who say a real Alien Craft Feels?

THEY FEEL GREAT!!!

They feel that everything is being done to satisfy their report!!!

THEY FEEL THEY ARE BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY!!!

Back in the 1940's to 1960's.....COVERUP...COVERUP.....COVERUP!!!

Didn't work.

Worked the opposite way it was intended to work!!

AboveAlpha

 

AAA?

As in Anti Aircraft Fire or as in Roadside Assistance?

AboveAlpha

 

Wow!

May I copy and paste this entire reply..... into this discussion?

http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...-us-set-him-up-office-potus-early-2016-a.html

 

One of the possible reasons as to why we come up with something brilliant that saves millions of lives..... can be a subconscious memory of a time line....... that has already occurred......… where events went terribly off track...… and before our birth as a mere human we discussed a plan to initiate a new time line in which world events are spun off in a vastly more positive manner.

http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...2000-election-but-negates-global-dimming.html

In alternate time line Mr. Gore wins the 2000 election but negates Global Dimming....
I personally loved the film "An Inconvenient Truth." I have watched it four or five times at least. It played a huge role in my deciding to join a political party that takes climate change very seriously.

Largely due to his film I actually put in two submissions for The Virgin Earth Challenge.

I do have one criticism for his film though..... the diplomacy quotient was extremely low and America is more divided than ever partly because of the flavor of his film.

..........
Could a win by Mr. Al Gore in 2000 have led to America being 15% submerged under the oceans by January 1, 2013?

Time does look like a menorah....... or tree with branches and roots... … and is not confined to being a straight line...…

In theory....... Mr. Gore's policy could have ended up greatly decreasing the Global Dimming Effect..... at the same time that it might do little to reduce a general Global Warming trend.... which could lead to rapid warming.....and of course increased cracking and sliding on the land based Greenland Ice Pack.... the world's glaciers and the outer regions of Antarctica......

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and President Bush may have deliberately allowed somewhat bad policy to continue...… because they probably had been told that the factors that increase Global Dimming..... do tend to mask Global Warming.... .which could mean within five decades we may know that that they may have had a basically good idea..... in comparison to worst possible alternative.....??????!!!

http://www.baproducts.com/chetmap.htm

Dr Chet Snow's Earth Change Map

 

heh, roadside assistance - for the crashed roswell vehicle

 

Hey Dennis,

I had a psychotic break in 2014.

In the days leading up to it I thought that I was in contact with a group that was spread across time and space. I thought they were trying to make things turn out better next time, and they were on Facebook getting people to "like" real events specific to their specific reality as a form of bookmark to target their reality.

This was accomplished through a special Facebook plug-in that only presented itself at that moment to certain people when they entered the dictionary page for the word: Egregious. A notification popped up and I clicked "yes" and my computer changed, and events got added to my Calendar app, and I could even access the special features on devices that weren't mine.

Then I had my psychotic break and went to the hospital. When I got home, a couple weeks later, I went to my computer and all of it was gone without a trace! And all that was there was a nasty virus that I had to remove to get my internet back up and running.

- - - Updated - - -

Now see, that would actually have been useful. LOL.

 

[video=youtube;OmJ2snsLxWw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmJ2snsLxWw[/video]

 

4:21 The maniacs and crazy people.

 

Go ahead...it's all Public Knowledge now.

AboveAlpha

 

Yeah....uhh,.....thank's for getting here so quick!!

I feel like I am out in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE!!!

Anyways....you wouldn't happen to have 480 Grams of the Elemement Ununpentium being as 115 UUP 291 thus would only have 176 neutrons in its nucleus? Would you?

Also you wouldn't happen to know a place around here that sells Whole Beef Tongues....because I am late as it is and you know how the Ol' Ladies Get when you come home late and without the one thing on the list they asked for!!? Am I right ? Or am I right? LOL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Thank you...… it really will liven up this discussion:




http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=367839&page=5&p=1064806969#post1064806969

Richard Dawkins: Aliens Seeded Earth?

 

The BIGGEST STORIES THAT NO ONE REMEMBERS TO LOOK INTO.....are the two events in the early 1950's and Early 1960's when literally MILLIONS OF AMERICAN'S....watched as Hundreds of Alien Craft flew over Washington DC.

Here's something I don't think you know that you can check on.

In the Early 1960's when the American Public was PANICING....as just like in the early 1950's they thought these craft might be SUPER ADVANCED SOVIET AIRCRAFT that despite everything the USAF did in the early 1960's....they could not shoot not even ONE of these Alien Craft down that was buzzing over the White House and Capitol Building in DC.

A PLAN was devised.....A REALLY FU@#!NG STUPID AND DANGEROUS PLAN!!!

Back then the best and faster U.S. Aircraft was the Lockheed F-104 Starfighter which was a single-engine, supersonic interceptor aircraft that had a Needle Nose Design and very small wings.

LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-104_Starfighter

Since these Alien Craft were just PLAYING with the USAF attempts to shoot one down....this IDIOTIC PLAN of placing a NUCLEAR TIPPED AIR TO AIR MISSILE ON A F-104 WAS DEVISED!!!

Now these Nuclear Tipped Air to Air Missiles were designed to destroy large incoming numbers of Soviet Nuclear Bombers coming over the Arctic Ocean.....they were NOT designed to be carrier by an F-104 OVER A POPULATED AREA!!!

This link I will provide details the ability of the F-104 to carry these Nuclear Tipped Air to Air Missiles.

LINK...http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail-page-2.asp?aircraft_id=113

FORTUNATELY.....AT THE LAST MINUTE......it was decided that the F-104 equipped with these Nukes over a massive Civilian Area......was too great a risk especially due to the small size of the F-104's wings and the instibility created by such Nukes.

HUGE STORY.....THAT IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.....WHICH ANYONE CAN GOOGLE....THAT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Wow!

I had never heard of this before!

I believe that you hit on an important point……. it is almost like our military was being played with….. or perhaps tested!

At the five minute mark in this film it talks about a large electronic device being brought in from Jordan to the Temple Mount several days before this UFO sighting.

I have to wonder if certain activists were attempting to blow up the Temple Mount……. and did the UFO event have to do with their plan being thwarted????

If so then the fact that this UFO sighting was filmed from several different angles is impressive evidence indeed that technology far far far beyond our own does indeed exist!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlT7u1Q5uWQ
UFO over Temple Mount

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/141937
Huge Jordanian Generators Sighted on Temple Mount
(1/26/2011)

The evidence that supports the idea that UFO's have technology far far far beyond our most advanced weapons…… fits with the idea shown to a near death experiencer that we would not be permitted to have an all out full scale nuclear war.

http://www.near-death.com/storm.html#a04

 

This Temple Mount Video is most likely a fake.

AboveAlpha

 

If so…. the lady from along the Mississippi deserves something along the line of an Academy Award for her performance?!

Her comments begin at the 1:37 minute mark……..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIoHE6P8gOk
ALL 6 VIDEOS - Temple Mount UFO OVNI Jerusalem, January 2011 PROOF

 

Please do not quote this individual. He has no knowledge more than you and I reading the internet. When he was Defence Minister he merged the airforce, army and navy into one unit making a laughing stock of the Canadian Armed Forces.

He tried to run for there different parties. He's a sad lonely man who wanted attention so started talking about ufos.. There are plenty of credible people out there this is not one of them and he wis NOT the Canadian Defence Minister He is just an aging, lonely man repeating what he reads on the internet.

Information on aliens is out there for anyone to find. Much is disinformation and false and the challenge is to try wade through it.

All I will say is I believe we have been in contact with aliens and they have come over many spans of time to observe us. I believe they showed a renewed interest in the late end of WW2 because of nuclear weapons which are causing problems not just on this planet but for other levels of energy.

I believe we think life is just what we see. Well there are thousands of life forms on this planet none of us see but tknow exist and I would argue there are also levels of energy that are governed by intelligence that we can measure, but are limited in terms of what we can comprehend since our methodologies of observation are still quite primative.

Physics has already proven energy vibrates at different levels and can co-exist at different levels at the same time.

The concept of travel by shrinking the parameter of space temporarily to get from pt. a to pt. b has already been proven in controlled experiments.


To someone brought up to be limited to their five senses and only what we see in the media this all sounds insane. To people of other cultures, aliens, spirits, are not unknown.

The aboriginal peoples of North and South America, Africa, Australia, people who live in certain parts of Mexico or Peru or the Yucatan region, people in high mountain altitudes such as in Tibet and the Himalayas all have ancient stories of being visited. Hell the ancestors of the Hindus talk of people visiting with flying machines.

Anthropological and archeological references can be found.

It is true of course many ufo sightings could be experimental craft or mistaken air craft or scientific phenomena. When we all did not know about the stealth fighter, when it was first being flown it would have of course looked like a ufo. I do not doubt some ufos are secret or new aircraft being perfected, others are scientific phenomena that can be explained but I also believe there is a percentage of sightings that are genuine and we are visited on this planet no different then we study animals in the wild.

I believe aliens study our behaviour, tag us, and do to us exactly what we do when we study wild life.

To think we are the most superior life form in the universe is foolish. The possibilities of what life could look like in form are infinite.

I I also think that the pollution and nuclear weapons and chemical weapons we have created and the pollution we have caused are a concern to other life forms outside our planet.


I believe aliens are and have made contact with what I like to call ordinary people, shmucks because they do not trust our governments. And so? What is their true agenda. No one knows. How could we?

Let's just hope they do not treat us like we treat the other life forms on our planet.