Scott Walker supports eliminating 48-hour waiting period for handgun purchases

But societies can and have done similar things in the past. Rights are given by the society you live in.

 

Rights are not given by society. Rather they are interpreted by society and the courts. The individuals who drafter the declaration of independence and the constitution regarded the rights recognized as preexisting.

 

That's ridiculous. Without society what's to stop me from beating you up and taking your stuff? Or shooting you? Or enslaving you? Rights come from the people around you, your society.

 

Self control? Personal integrity? Decency? No matter how much 'society' you have around you, without any of that no law can protect you. Those are the things taught by religion.

 

To what extent?

Lack of personal conviction on your part. Unless you possess no psychological inhibition against hurting others for your own personal gain. And you do not lack such psychological inhibitions.

Your analysis is the basis for mob mentality rather than constitutionality. Majority rule even if it harms the minority simply because there are more like-minded individuals for one position rather than another. That was the basis behind Proposition Eight for the state of California; more individuals in support of prohibiting homosexual marriage than favoring it. The supreme court overruled the state and declared the law unconstitutional, stating in effect that might does not make right.

 

And this right here is why I don't trust liberals.

 

There are many people running around who don't have the attributes you listed. I for instance am a diagnosed sociopath. Before you jump to conclusions that's not as bad as it sounds. There are more of us than you would imagine and it can actually be an asset at ceratin times and in certain carrer paths. I'm not an axe murderer or anyyhing. I work pretty hard to hide it, and over the years I've even learned to connect with people and fit in but don't kid yourself, I and many others are doing it as camouflage. You may think you were born with moral instincts and rights but you weren't. You learn your morals as a child and you get your rights from society.

By the way, might still makes right you're just looking at it wrong. In this case the supreme court is mightier than the population of CA.

 

In Iowa you can walk out of a store with the handgun on the same day, if you get a permit to buy or if you have a permit to Carrie. No issues here. What is the big deal. If you aready have the paper work done what does it hurt.

 

Then an admitted sociopath favors waiting periods. That alone would be considered by some as evidence that waiting periods do more harm then good, due to the societal perception of what sociopaths are.

 

And here we see a graphic demonstration of why you don't hear people admit it very often.

And you're wrong as well. A sociopath makes conscious logical desicions about right and wrong, not emotional ones. Since my opinion is unencumbered by "feelings" it should carry more weight than one that is.

 

Good on him, conservatives in power can be good on some issues!

Round these parts it's 21 days.

 

Do not assume that you are the only sociopath weighing in on the issue.

 

Sounds like a stupid idea to me and I would let people buy most weapons at that.

 

Actually that is exactly what I usually assume.

 

Logic is in the eye of the beholder...

 

What an odd thing to say. There is no cooling off period here in Tx, and no problems.

 

Sociopathy doesn't mean killer. My ex was a paranoid personality disorder, yet very honest and wouldn't hurt a fly, just crazy to live with.

 

Really when you think about it, they are taken away by the society you live in.

 

Sorry to say, but it's not.

 

Are you saying that a sociopath's logic is the same as everyone else?

 

Certainly is when you are speaking of a sociopath.

 

You guys are all assuming you're born with any. You are not. There is no such thing as "natural rights" or "god given rights". All of them are a product of the society you live in.

 

Take away society, and what do you have? Lets say you are the only person the planet, what rights dont you have now because society is gone? A societies function is to govern and regulate behavior to fit the social norms of a given community.

 

Why do you guys all insist on appealing to extremes? What rights could you possibly need as the last man on earth?

 

Because thats how it must be explained. When a man is by himself , what doesnt he have a right to? He can do anything he wants , because no regulation or laws exist. Society comes in and regulates so that people can get along. Its simple really, not really even up for debate.