LA police shoot dead homeless vagrant

There is no evidence to the contrary; Is there any evidence that the cop would have used such force if it did not appear the victim was using a gun? Evidence needs to be viewed from both angles. It could be that this cop has a history of aggression, which would certainly add as evidence against the weaver.

Then we have to agree that we must take all potential steps to avoid such situations, and trust such steps (body cams not interfered with, trust a person who has been given a position of power).

Who, me? Heh, not at all; I work in IT. I spend half my time in the US, and other times around the world (actually I usually only have time for PF when I'm out of the US!).

I'm actually in the UK now. And thank you for what I would regard as a compliment. I try to be level headed where possible

 

So here you go again ! – Abrading me with your unrelated Clap Trap Crap

& maybe while you are at it -
You could tell the 79yr old Grandma, or Kelly Thomas in the above posts, to stop their snivelling too
.............................................................. Oh sorry! - don't have to worry about Kelly Thomas - He's DEAD

& Further:
I would maintain that you are totally IGNORANT & have NO idea of the price I pay
....................................................................................................... for my Activistism


And WTF does the content of your Posts have to do with
'The price of chicken in China' - OR the present topic of this thread ?
.......................................... That being Police Abuse & Brutality
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If the police chief stated that the guy used the weaver to hold a hose attachment - and it makes no sense to use a double handed grip when one is perfectly adequate, then he is obligated to provide evidence in support of that. Simply stating it doesn't impress a suspicious public. Nor should it.

I think the elephant in the room is that trust has been lost, and will not be returning very soon unless or until cops guilty of abuse of power (and worse) pay the same penalty that ordinary citizens pay for similar offences -- arrest and trial and if convicted a suitable sentence. Anything else falls short of the maxim that the law is for all and not just for some.

I hope you're enjoying the weather here. Cool or what?

Maybe it was the other poster who is a cop because he seems to have seen the cops body cam and reported on it, and says the guy grabbed for the officers holstered pistol. I think it was he (?) who also said the guy with the deadly hose attachment definitely used the weaver stance. All I want is evidence to support those assertions.

 

WOW "Brownie " - You are really hot on my CASE - ain't Chaaa !

So tell us what it is that YOU do, - to make people aware of these sorts of Atrocities ?
besides of coarse indulging in your Absurdities and overuse your Fav.Word "Snivel"


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Peaceful Man Shot In The Face
During Botched Drug Raid, No Drugs or Guns Found

http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/peaceful-man-shot-face-botched-drug-raid-drugs-guns-found/

Witnesses say that police were conducting a “no-knock” raid where they knocked down
the door with a battering ram and entered the home with their weapons drawn. Friends
who were inside the home told reporters that police fired their weapons without hesitation,
and that it was blatantly obvious that Cruice was unarmed, as he was wearing basketball
shorts and no shirt. The friends were also quick to point out that there were no weapons
................................................................................................ on the property at all.


Is there A ny chance at all , that these sorts of Horror Shows, might be the result of insisting that present
.................................................................. Applicants to Law Enforcement work be of LOW Intelligence ?
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& if you think that the above cases are Isolated Incidents -
I would suggest the YOU - Wake the F%K UP !

Bad Cop No Donut
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/

Filming Cops
http://filmingcops.com/


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Get a gang of Roid Raging, shaved head'd retard Pigs
Put them all behind a Badge, and a zoot suite of Kevlar

Give them a Glock, a Machine Gn, & few Flash Bangs
These Knuckle heads already have from somewhere between 180 - 240+lbs
............................................................................................. of heavy authority

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG ?
https://www.google.ca/search?q=flas...=X&ei=eBD5VM_wItDisASvg4Ao&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQsAQ

Dopers In Uniform – Cops On Steroids - Pigs On The Poke

From Boston to Arizona, police departments are investigating a growing
number of incidents involving uniformed police officers using steroids.
So-called "juicing" has been anecdotally associated with several brutality cases, ………..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0civhPQ768#t=52


Steroid Drug Use By Police
Linked To Roid Rage & Epidemic Of Police Brutality
https://prof77.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/police-steroid-drug-abuse/


Illegal Steroid Use By Cops (Is An Epidemic)
http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/the-bogus-drug-war-1/illegal-steroid-use-by-cops-an-epidemic.html

& you goof balls don't THINK that you might have a problem ?


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maybe
To just Many Cartman's on the Police Force

[video=youtube;gx4jn77VKlQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx4jn77VKlQ[/video]

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I couldn't help but drop in after reading the thread title. "LA police shoot dead homeless vagrant"

Why would they shoot a dead homeless vagrant?

 

This is a question that needs to be answered.

 

well MAYBE == BECAUSE they’re RETARDED ?

 

You guys gotta grow a sense of humor

Can Somneone Be To Smart To Be A Cop ?
http://www.mintpressnews.com/can-someone-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/192106/
Although it’s not widely known, federal courts have ruled since 2000
that police departments can legally opt to not hire someone simply
because he or she scores too high on an intelligence test


Police Officially Refuse To Hire Applicants With High IQ Scores
http://politicalblindspot.com/police-officially-refuse-to-hire-applicants-with-high-iq-scores/

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That's actually some pretty scary (*)(*)(*)(*) mang.

 

Maybe they're tying to increase diversity by lowering the bar.

 

I would assume that would be impossible, unless there is some CCTV (dash cam) available. I would assume nothing is available - which is a shame for both parties involved.

Well, I haven't lost trust; perhaps I am in the minority. I think there are a lot who hold onto the small reports and try to apply it to all. The Ferguson issue seems to be very contentious for example - this huge teenager certainly was being threatening by all accounts, but the reports were generally "unarmed kid shot dead" which pulls at heartstrings and sets a first impression.

A bit chilly, compared to my usual climate. Talking of which, the Sharpstown (not where I live, btw) area is an interesting twist on the cop debate.

Evidence is perfect, naturally, but isn't always available. Innocent until proven guilty applies to both sides of the law when they are scrutinized. Although this evidence would "clear" the cop, I'm not sure that lack of it "convicts" him. That's my sticking point. Is there enough of a justified loss of trust for all cops to assume this cop was "bad"? How does one measure the loss of trust, and how widespread it should be? It's a difficult issue.

 

Actually, I think there is a growing lack of trust in cops and that is something that needs to be addressed.

Witness my distrust of the police chief and his assertion that the hose holder used the weaver stance. Having used a very similar attachment myself, I can say that it suits one-handed use - not a two handed, hands held out in front posture. That's why I find it suspicious and why I remain unconvinced that the chief was telling the whole truth.

With far more people using mobile (cell) phone cameras to film police in action, many more of these suspect cases are coming to light.