http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31760656 For anybody who liked to source ancient Sumerian archeology to corroborate scripture or to try and prove the Israelites were an actual people of the era, your time is running out. One of the most celebrated and ancient cities in Iraq, Nimrud (named after an Ethiopian King, Nimrod) is being razed to the ground by ISIS for fear that we, the west are worshipping false idols. Now iwont disagree that Nimrod was a false idol or that the west worships him, which kind of leaves me torn, as this site and others in Iraq have been lasting vestiges of the glorious Ethiopian Kingdoms across the region. Has this Idol worship in the west really held back the advancement of mankind or is idol worship a glorious thing?
Speak for yourself, but however sad I find it that ISIS destroys ancient archaeological sites, as a 21th century Westener I certainly never worshipped Nimrod, nor do I have the faintest clue what the site of Nimrod has to do with the ancient Israelites or Egyptians. As far as I know its Assyrian.
Doesn't have anything to do with Ethiopia. The Assyrian king Shalmaneser I (1274 BC – 1245 BC) built Kalhu (Calah/Nimrud) during the Middle Assyrian Empire. However, the ancient city of Ashur remained the capital of Assyria, as it had been since c. 3500 BC. A number of historians, such as Julian Jaynes, believe that the Biblical figure Nimrod (of whom the far later Arab name for the city was derived) was inspired by the deeds of the real king of Assyria Tukulti-Ninurta I (1244–1207 BC), the son of Shalmaneser I, and a powerful conqueror. Others believe the name derived from the Assyrian god Ninurta, who had a major cultic centre at Kalhu/Nimrud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrud
Nimrod was Abrahams arch nemesis. So basically we have a clash between monotheism and paganism. so if you are a pagan then essentially you are worshipping Nimrod, in theory.
your opinion on this matter is irrelevant. We can discuss the "ethnicity" of Nimrod on another topic if you want to discuss that. This is about Idol Worship, not the "race of the sumerians"
According to the Bible, Nimrod was a great-grandson of Noah. this was long before any ethnicities ever existed. so no, we cannot say that Nimrod had an ethnicity. He was a human being, and that's it. ...if he even existed, which is highly doubful. There is more evidence that Santa Claus existed.
This is a cultural crime of the first order, a tragedy we may never recover from. This is an essential part of the heritage of mankind, the oldest civilization that exists. History begins at Sumer and it may be ending there The Taliban did this in the Bamiyan valley. Islamic fundamentalism is a cancer on mankind, it must be eradicated or it will kill us all.
any doubts, post here, imade a topic especially for you to discuss Nimrods "race" lol. otherwise you are going to derail this thread for fear of its revelations. http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=399354&p=1064804178#post1064804178
only hateful, ignorant people destroy priceless art. these things are part of the cultural heritage of the world.
This isnt Nimrod but in Mosul; [video=youtube;YyFsOWyYy0A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyFsOWyYy0A[/video]
Again speak for yourself. Like most people from where Im from in the West Im not pagan. And the pagans that used to live here certainly never heard of Nimrod. I dare say that these days you wont find very many people who worship ancient Assyrian idols in Iraq either. And ISIS certainly did not worry too much about the possibility of idol worship when they sold ancient figurines for profit. So I dare say that idol worshipping isnt really the reason why they went berserk in Mosul and Nimrod. It seems they just like to shock people who take an interest in history before the Kalifat.
Only here could the destruction of ancient archeological treasures take a back seat to which ethnicity originated said treasures. Some people disappoint me greatly.
im speaking for western society in general, not you personally. lol, you misunderstood, no worries. the fact that they sold some artifacts to the western market has nothing to do with their islamic principles, not sure where youre getting your 'hypocrite' labels from, maybe you should look at your leaders, who have not only armed and supplied ISIS on this so- called rampage but are the likely benefactors from the sales. of course this is all theoretical as neither of us has info on the supposed sales.
Oh. I totally agree that the rise of ISIS is the result of failed Western policy and that the blood of all their victims is on our hands. And I wasnt talking about me personally but about me as a general example. My point was that not even ISIS can be bonkers enough to seriously think that in the year 2015 CE theres still a great many people around who actually worship ancient Assyrian idols. Whatever they claim, it seems that their motives for destroying cultural heritage are political rather than religious: ethnic cleansing and robbing people of their past is a pretty strong move, if you want to consolidate power in the future Kalifat. Well, as I said, the blood of the victims is on our hands. First western colonial powers decided on ridiculous borders in the region, then postcolonial powers destabilized it by invading Iraq and sacking Saddams army .
It has more to do with the western tradition of idol worship which our culture is guilty of, from football players, music whores and pimps, politicians all of them, worshipped and placed on pedestal higher than Yah
So you are trying to tell us that ISIS just destroys ancient Assyrian artefacts and monuments because they couldnt get hold of David Beckham and Lady Gaga? Ah, well!
You have to admit, it would be quite liberating to smash a statue of say george washington for example, with a sledge hammer, especially if you are an Iraqi.
Id say a lot of Iraqis are devastated to see their cultural heritage smashed and that its probably those Iraqis ISIS aims at, not you or me or George Washington. Im not saying ISIS is fond of the latter, Im just saying that not everything happening in Iraq and Syria is about our precious West, however much we like to think that the world solely revolves around us. What Bush did in Iraq was to create a power vacuum with loads of disgruntled Sunnis, who did well under Saddams secular Baath party, then were disenfranchised under the Shia-dominated regime the US installed, and who now take religion as an excuse to lash out at Shia, other ethnic minorities and anybody else who might question their regained leadership in the region.
Absolutely, this is heartbreaking for the Iraqis.. and all the Arab Newspapers are shocked and angry.