If no Palestinian state then what??

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    If there is not to be a Palestinian state as Israel has said and many on this forum have agreed with...then what is to happen to the current Palestinian territories? Are they and their residents to be incorporated into Israel? Relocated for more settlements?
     
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    Send them back to Jordan where they came from springs to mind.
     
  3. Margot2

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    They didn't come from Jordan but many refugees were forced out of Palestine and the Negev into Jordan and Gaza.

    Make an effort to learn the history of events since 1900. 90% of the population were Muslims and Christians until the mid 1930s.
     
  4. The Mello Guy

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    Nobody is leaving...not the Jews and not the Palestinians.
     
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    Well I for one believe in a two state solution, but Palestinians don't seem to believe in one. They've had two opportunities in the past couple of years. The Clinton negotiations and the ones under Bush. But when the moment came, they couldn't pull the trigger (on agreeing to a Palestinian State- they can pull triggers for every other reason). So since they don't want a two state solution, that leaves them with:

    Another few decades of a pity party in the oldest refugee camps in history...

    Iranian nukes destroy Israel as a state...

    Gaza goes back to Egypt and the West Bank goes back to Jordan...(not the option either Egypt or Jordan want)

    Israel annexes Gaza and the West Bank, gives them full voting rights, and then they vote for kristallnacht...

    Which option do you think Palestinians would prefer?
     
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    Funny, the last time I looked there was a LARGE "Palestinian" State. It's called Jordan! Think not??? Go look at a map of "Palestine" in 1916. Jordan makes up 76% of the land mass of that area. On top of that, Jordan made all the so called "Palestinians" citizens of Jordan in 1967. Guess why they were kicked out of Jordan??? They tried to over throw the Jordanian Government. So far as I'm concerned there are NO "Palestinians" ( a name they never took on until 1964) and the people in Gaza and the West Bank are nothing more than a bunch of kill crazy radicals. It's time the Israelis take a piece of bacon and rub the tips of their bullets with it, advertise the fact and see how many Arabs want to play games. Hey, Black Jack Pershing warped a few in pig skins in 1921. That ended all problems with them at that time with the U.S..
     
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    There were no "Israelis" until 1948. Does that make their nation illegitimate?
     
  8. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    I'm no nuke expert but I don't think Israel can be nuked without nuking Palestine as well.
     
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    Where the heck do you think Jordan came from??? The AREA known as Palestine!!!
     
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    They have been called "Palestinians" at least since the 1950s...... by ALL Americans who lived in the Middle East.

    Desecrating dead bodies of Muslims has no impact on whether a Muslim gets to heaven or not.. Pershing wasn't very bright.
     
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    So you vote no to Iranian nukes? Progress at least
     
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    How about Israel take over Gaza and the West Bank and give the Arabs a ticket to whatever Arab country they like?
     
  13. The Mello Guy

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    I'm 100% in support of israels right to a peaceful existence. But I think those living in the Pali territories have the right to eiyher statehood or to be given full citizenship rights in Israel.

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    Why not make them walk like the trail of tears
     
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    Yeah, like they did in India/Pakistan.

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    IIRC the majority of "Palestinians" today or their parents and grandparents came to the West Bank AFTER trying to overthrow the Jordanian government in 1970. The so called "Black September" uprising of 1970.
     
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    Don't see why that matters other than to establish they probably wouldnt be welcomed back to Jordan
     
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    If no Palestinian state then what?? Really don't care anymore. Just like our own internal race hustlers the Palestinians and the Israeli's have their own. Sheeple all over are being played as fools and they have to wake up or continued to be played.
     
  18. Lil Mike

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    Hey I already said that the Palestinians should get their own state, but they don't want one unless it includes all the territory that includes Israel. They could have already had a Palestinian state otherwise, so it seems that it's less about Palestinians having their own state and more about getting rid of the Jews.
     
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    LOL, and they originated in the various bulldozed billages across the Palestine mandate.
     
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    Uh no, they do want one and have repeatedly shown that they do by being reasonable. Theyve long ago given up claim to most of the Palestine where they had lived for generations.
     
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    There was no Jordan until 1948, does that make their nation Illegitimate??? If you would bother reading the history of the area you would know that Jordan was called Trans-Jordan under the British from 1922 until 1948 but it STILL consisted of 76% of the area called "Palestine".

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    And you think the Iranians would CARE if the nuked the so called "Palestinians"???
     
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    The name "Palestinians" was coined by Arafat and his PLO in 1964. And friend, dead Americans over there don't smell any better than dead Arabs. The idea that a bullet wiped with a piece of bacon would scare the crap out of any good Muslim (any unclean thing touching the body when they die, according to them, puts them into the deepest hell appeals to me) .
     
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    So you tell me, however they had their chance for it during the Camp David summit and they rejected it.
     
  24. creation

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    Please mike, youve seen me around here for long enough. You know I mainly hang around the middle east section on this very subject.

    They didnt reject anything, they in fact agreed to more than the Isrealis. They simply wanted the talks to continue, which the Isrealis rejected.

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    No it wasnt, the term palestinian is much older.
     
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    No.. They were called Palestinians by all the Americans living and working in the ME in the late 1940s..

    Do you recall that Palestine had stamps, currency and newspapers in the 1930s?

    If you desecrate a dead body, it on you not on the dead person.

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    It was Transjordan in 1924 and Jordan in 1946.

    Have you ever been there?
     

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