I see the professional victims are out in force.

They are OH, SO DISCRIMINATED AGAINST by being criticized for wanting to be allowed to discriminate against others. As usual, their religious freedom is being persecuted because they can’t persecute others who have the unmitigated gall to not subscribe to THEIR version of holy writ. Poor babies.

Perhaps they should have their very own section of this site. A possible designation would be MARTYRDOM. It could be devoted to those who want to freely practice their religion – on others, those others being, by definition, evil.

I believe they forget that THEIR religious freedom does not include the right of imposition. In fact, THEIR religious freedom (and their freedom in general) is best guaranteed by preserving that of others

I remember two scenes from the movie A Man For All Seasons.

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Margaret More: Father, that man's bad.
Sir Thomas More: There's no law against that.
William Roper: There is: God's law.
Sir Thomas More: Then God can arrest him.
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William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

 

It's just been revealed that a Muslim faith business owner bakery has point blank refused to produce a wedding cake for a gay wedding. So are leftwingers now going to inundate that 'intolerant' business owner with hate messages and death threats, or will the Left inclusively ignore this business owner? Well, DOES the Left have ethical standards or . . . just . . . double . . . standards?

 

Congratulations on a very lame attempt at changing the subject.

 

Oh... there was one? Couldn't tell.

 

I am hardly responsible for your level of comprehension.

Your turn.

 

Really.. I hadn't seen that in the news, but if its true... they should bake the wedding cake.. Do you own a business??

 

Personally I'm not a big fan of forcing others to do something that they believe goes against their religion. Tolerance isn't something that can be forced, it's something that will happen over time naturally. And if people want to say no then let the free market speak for itself and close the business down. But using the courts to make someone go against their beliefs to do what you want makes you come off as petty, against free will, and a crybaby.

 

Professional Victims?

Is that like the latest courageous stand by RWAs against the latest threat to the US: HOMOFASCISM

Or is it the courageous stand RWAs take against the US's big gov burying us with unnecessary health and safety regulations.

I don't know. There is so much courage and complaining oozing from the right these days that it's hard to get a grasp on whatever this thread is supposed to be covering.

 

It is possible, in the sane world, for a cake to be just a cake. A pizza is just a pizza. I don't see the theological implications of either. Considering the two religions (currently) under discussion - Christianity and Islam - would anyone be so kind as to provide scriptural references stating otherwise? If there are dietary restrictions within a religion prohibiting, for example, pork, then they apply to a PRACTITIONER of that religion from PERSONALLY eating whatever it is. Whatever others eat is THEIR business.

I would have no objection to, for example, a baker politely telling a same-sex couple "I'm sorry but I'm really uncomfortable about baking your cake. However, here's a list of reputable bakers who can help you." On the other hand, "I won't bake your cake because I think you're evil" is pure bigotry or, to use a more accurate term, crap.

 

Being Gay is a religion? Where's the imposition? I read that $475,00 was raised for the shop and they would like to thank the GLBT community for making it all possible. I wonder if I could get them to boycott my business seeing as it worked so well for Chic- fil-a.

 

I own a business and I hire/serve/do business with homosexuals. Some of my best clients and employees.

I'm not, however, prone to catering to antisemites and if I discover one of my clients is antisemitic - our days of doing business are over. If the government ever tells me I have to do business with antisemites - that would be it. I'd close my doors.

My business is my business.

If antisemites want a business - they can start their own.

 

This post is obvious junk. The issue, clearly, by the way, stated, is the use by the religious right and the repubs, of the fig leaf of religious "freedom" to discriminate against same sex marriage and against persons attracted to their own sex, based on their own words and actions, and, based on their own words and actions, any claim to the contrary is purposeful and blatant hypocrisy. The imposition is on the part of the religious right and the repub party and the world knows it, the pious and obvious lies notwithstanding.

I've said it many times but I'll say it again. Freedom to practice your religion does not include freedom to practice it on others.

 

Liberal intolerance at it's finest.

 

I want donuts with bacon baked into them, thank that guy will make them for me? Maybe he should be sued and forced to make the order.

It's comical how Christians are attacked and their business nearly destroyed for not wanting to participate in a gay wedding, yet gays are physically attacked right here in the U.S. by Muslims and not a word, where's the outrage?

 

Your attention is (more or less) respectfully invited to the content of the initial post and the complete lack of comprehension of your comment.

 

yes, homophobes feel discriminated against because their bigotry is illegal in a business situation.

 

By the way, I oppose THAT bakery too. One "muslim" bakery, however, is not the driving force behind these laws and you know it.

 

Another attempt to change the subject. The bakers are NOT being asked to participate in the wedding, and you know it. They are paid to bake a damned cake. There's a difference. Where's the outrage? Right here. I'm outraged at the conscious lies and shameless hypocrisy of the supporters of such laws.

 

lol. Nor could I. Just a lot of verbal vomit.

We know who the professional victims are. And I ain't one of them.

 

As far as I know none of them have ever turned down making any cake for a gay person, just making and decorating a type of wedding cake. In the same way 13 different pro-gay bakeries turned down a customer that wanted a cake decorated with "Gay Marriage is Wrong", should they be forced to make those cakes?

The pizza place won't cater a gay weddings but they gladly serve anyone walking in the door.

"What consenting adults do is their business and no one else's." UNTIL they decide to force me to go against my faith in doing so. If gays come into my bakery and want to buy a dozen cup cakes, I will gladly sell it to them. If they ask for a blank wedding cake, I will gladly sell them one. If they ask me to decorate a a gay wedding cake that reflects that, I will gladly tell them to go elsewhere to get that done. You don't seem to understand it's a matter of extension. If I sold cell phones, it simply wouldn't matter who they were sold to, you got the money.....you got the phone. The customer being gay extends nothing onto me, a baker being forced to decorate a gay wedding cake does.

 

How many threads have you started on them? Aren't they just as guilty?

[video=youtube;RgWIhYAtan4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4[/video]

It's not "one", Crowder bagged several ON VIDEO.

 

Then you shouldn't have any problem naming the incident of imposition that your claiming happened.

 

Clearly and in much the same way as the Chic fil a boycott, this one backfired, you lost and you have your panties in a wad.

 

Isn't it funny how the right-wing fundamentalist Christians sound just like the Muslim extremists and all the other religious fanatics?