I don't understand doomsday preppers

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  1. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They will run out of food in under a week and then most will expand outward looting as they go. The folk in the way will be prey. That said, some of those folk will be prepared for the coming mobs. After a few weeks or perhaps two months, 90% of those who are too unprepared, require too many of the services of civilization, or are simply unable to live out of sight of the nearest Starbucks will be gone and the folk left will figure it out among themselves. I contend the vast majority of those survivors will be 'prepers' and the parasites of today will simply be gone. All one needs is any event that kills electricity....once generators run ouf of fuel transportation stops and people starve.
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's about right. I am only a good, lukewarm prepper.

    Only have 80 gallons of preserved water (but live on a lake/swamp and have a good purification system).

    Food on hand will only last 3 months---that is, unless a bunch of my wife's relatives show up.

    Firearms---all set on that.
     
  3. Coolia

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    That is perfectly understandable. I'm not referring to being prepared for a temporary emergency. I'm referring mostly to something like a Carrington event where most of the population is killed off and there will be no more power grids, technology or other things that people are accustomed to.
     
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    Preparing for a potential natural disaster is one thing and we all should prepare for the possibility of these. As far as bunkers, amassing weapons; I doubt it will do anyone any good in the long run for many diminish their quality of life in the short term. Doomsday will come at the hands of humans when one Country no longer values life including their own. That is why allowing Countries that allow religions who promote death and destruction of one's perceived enemy should not be allowed to have any long range weapons, nuclear or not. I do believe it will be the human race that destroys the human population. And, I am not sure that we can stop them from doing so if that is what they want and their reason for existing.
     
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    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I find it odd that people buy tons of insurance for possible financial problems, but they completely ignore the basic essentials of life. As a Christian, I believe we will enter a tribulation period in the next 20 years. This period will be a very trying time on earth.

    I'm less worried about complete blackouts due to biblical prophecies, but am concerned with basic essentials in a time when one must have a mark to buy and sell. Before this worldly government takes over, there will be a chaotic period. I'm storing food, water, knowledge and equipment in order to endure this period. Important is that I will not sacrifice my religious beliefs in order to survive. Survival is less important than living Gods will.

    There are numerous possible tragedies that can occur. Not being somewhat prepared is foolish. I cringe at people who whine for government assistance when they willfully ignored self preparations.
     
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    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    You and probably most over 75.
     
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    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    Well, there is talk of a bomblike thing that would destroy all electronics.

    That just might do it for the US.

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    But if you have found a way to place your grandkids in a survival position by then it would be worth it.
     
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    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how th Amish would deal with all the wannabe converts? I've been wondering about that because they are not too far from us.
     
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    I really have to make it a priority to clean up my basement.

    :eek:(
     
  10. Coniuratus

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    If it comes to the point that we are shooting off people trying to survive and all forms of government; rules; law and other structors are all gone, then I really do not want to live in a place like that. And what happens after 6 months? are you going to go out and starting scavenging for food and shelter? Or what if you get taken over by a larger more dominant group of people?
     
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    If the choice was to live in a place like that, or to die in that place, I would choose to live. You are of course free to make a different choice.

    You should be growing food at that point, and should have already had shelter the whole time, so no need to scavenge for it.

    Then it would be just like it is now.
     
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    Many people wouldn't understand the way you view such things either -- throwing in the towel without throwing a single punch.
     
  13. Dayton3

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    More efficient to keep handy containers and the stuff to purify water.
     
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    I am prepared for anything. I have everything I will ever need.

    * 100% of my power comes from solar energy, as well as my heat. My solar panels collect 250% of the energy needed to power my house, so I have an excess of energy.
    * I have a still in my house which can be used to make grain alcohol for medical uses (Making it is legal in my state too. YAY!)
    * My basement is a greenhouse, with fruits, vegetables, grains, herbs (including medicinal herbs), etc being grown.
    * My house has triple reenforce doors, windows, etc. This does multiple things. It keeps the house stong during storms and other bad weather. It allows for more climate control, and the house is all but bullet proof (which is needed because I live in a bad neighborhood.)
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Prepping is mostly about getting through the chaos and culling that would follow a disaster like a grid failure. Once 90% of the population is gone, the competition for resources will decrease and those prepared have more chance to get through that period of chaos than those who simply expect government to come and save them. Actually, I fear rump governments, want to be fascists, far more than I do my neighbors. I would expect local governments to use force to steal from those who have prepared to keep their base happy. Like folk learned during Katrina, have your serious defense and survival stuff out of sight and have stuff available for government to steal...a junk gun or so and a weeks worth of food or a first aid kit. Your 'rights' will not matter a whit to a rapacious government out to remain in power, for our own good.
     
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    Katrina was a sad example that decent people will follow evil orders.

    More on topic, "doomsday" isn't something you can prep for. You can prep for a societal disruption like an economic event or a weather event. People die and then life goes on. It's always been that way.
     
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    I lived through Katrina like so many here in the south. The weeks without electricity was the worse. There are things you don't consider. Like how will keep your food. How will you cook for that matter. No gas, no power, etc.
    lesson learned. I do have a small prepper plan. I have secondary means of cooking food, natural gas gen, LED lighting. Batteries for back up. Medical supplies, a small ice maker, at least two months of food, etc.
    bought little at a time. I promised myself if possible i will not have to wait in car lines blocks long for government MREs and water. You couldn't imagine how long the lines were and the hours spent there. The other reason that makes me feel better as a new prepper is that I know I can take care of my family. Leaving more resources for the family's in dire need.
     
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    all Americans should prepare for situation that are possible/likely to occur, such as long power outages, storms, earthquakes, etc.

    during Hurricane Sandy, much of NYC lost power for an entire week, gasoline for WEEKS, heat/hot water for 9 days.

    no one thought this could ever happen here. It was pretty crazy.
     
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    That is why you will be one of the lifeless zombies walking around looking for brains to eat.
     
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    preparing for UN/Communist/North Korea/Zionist take over of the country is very silly, and can be a very costly mistake.
     
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    Depends what kind of doomsday, a nuclear WWIII would have no survivors. Trying to survive another nazi or commie empire can work, if you are prepared very well.
    If you had sixteen years time to prepare you stand a bigger chance then when you only had a few years left to prepare.
    Ever watched the movie 'Dawn of the dead'? The 'zombies' in that movie actually represent the masses in this time. Not aware they start to become, or are already, part of history, part of a system aka hierarchy.
    Most people still have no idea what history really means and how it happened again and again to a population (that your mind slowly becomes part of the hierarchy of rulers because you think and communicate with the information coming from their minds (spread via all media), society made and still makes the same 'fatal error', emotion is not an error, it is still too primitive to understand what is going on, including in the intelligentsia.

    Even most preppers don't fully understand what is going on (but their instincts tells them something is going on that is unnatural), most probably think that there will be some kind of doomsday, apocalypse or war, but such things can only happen after rulers have succesfully mass organized a majority of the population.

    If a majority can succeed in becoming independent from the system and politics and the media, there would be no need for preparedness and survival skills.
    But history was always the same over the past few thousand years, so there is a very high chance that it will be again (until a majority start to become independent (without politics or/and a revolutionary struggle)
     
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    My folks were in Charleston for Hugo...they were without water for a week and electricity for a month. They BBQ'ed, bought bottled water, burned down tree residue for heat when needed. All they had prepared for was water and a BBQ propane tank...They would not have even done that if I hadn't recommended it before the disaster...Now imagine the same thing as Katrina or Hugo on a nation wide basis with no FEMA coming and no grid coming back for months or years...That means no food pretty quickly.

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    I thought they already had? Nobody in DC represents America any longer
     
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    I am not sure if I would want to live in a world like that though, no electricity, running water or anything. Basically the whole world would stop if only 10% of the population or even less is alive.
     
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    And that is your choice. There are a lot of other people who would prefer that they and their families continue to live.
     
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    The knowledge would exist...Rebuilding would take time but I figure in a decade o so small town america would have power and open roads. Hospitals would reopen, and trade would return. What wouldn't would be overpowering government and societies parasites.
     

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