Abortion law expected to save 600 babies yearly

http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/abortion-law-expected-to-save-600-babies-yearly/

Anti-abortion legislation is not going to save anybody. Children born to mothers who wanted to kill them while they still were a fetus won't get mommy's love and care. Usually they will be born to a large family with insufficient funds and left to the mercy of fate. Almost all ways to the middle class are closed for them. No decent job, no proper education, only misery and oppression of impoverished family.
Being all happy about 600 additional citizens a year is your right, though their - and our mutual - fate is far from brilliant.

 

The website is completely biased and dishonest. The first clue is calling a fetus a baby.

I agree with your assessment of the outcome.....

 

You're right, the law won't save any fetuses. What it will do is force women to have a more dangerous method of abortion, or travel to another state. Oh, and it will distract from Brownback's dismal economic, education, etc. failures.

 

That's not always true.

http://www.gargaro.com/choices.html
http://www.lifenews.com/2014/09/05/...she-was-raped-and-could-have-had-an-abortion/

 

The "lifenews" site..... everything it ever said about abortion has been proven wrong and discredited...but, hey, ya got nothing else...

 

Forcing women to have children they don't want doesn't always turn out so rosy and sweet. The women in your stories ultimately made their own decisions, and hopefully they will not regret them. Plenty of women have made the decision to abort and never regretted that decision.
http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/health-info/personal-stories-of-women-who-have-had-abortions/

 

There is also http://www.imnotsorry.net/

 

I agree that 600 babies saved is doing nothing, but it is a way for Politicians to pretend that they are doing something against abortions when they are in fact doing nothing.

Even the claim that they "expect 600" means nothing because the "expectation" means nothing.

I would also agree that many children are born into unhealthy environments but that is no reason to murder their unborn babies.

If our society started to provide better education and decent jobs with livable salaries, and if we give real assistance to the new parents (to both the fathers and to the mothers) as like paid maternity leave and even paid time after the birth, then the babies would be born into a healthier environment.

There have always been other options and better option for society to prosper beside promoting the murder of babies.

 

Yes. Make me dictator and give me totalitarian powers and I could "eliminate" poverty. Just like abortion supporters want to eliminate children living in unhealthy environments. Do we really want to go there?

 

No, they just call it an un-baby and that makes it all ok.

 

We call it an embryo or a fetus because that's what it is. Does calling it a "baby" make forced birth ok? What irony.

 

Whatever you choose to call it, it has to come out one way or the other. It's a little misleading to call pro-life policies "forced birth". Pro-lifers just want to give it a little more time to grow before it comes out.

 

Again....and again you cannot murder the unborn, and they are not babies.

Hyperbole and playing on emotions does not an argument make...though a foolish picture it certainly does.

 

If the woman isn't allowed to choose the "one way or the other," then it's forced birth.

 

No, they call it what it is, a fetus....and that IS OK. Your lying about what it is won't change what it is.

 

HUGE difference between coming out via a small tube and squeezing an 8 lb child out of a 10cm hole.....which you will never, ever have to worry about doing, since you don't have a uterus.

 

We are not going to make you or anyone into the Dictator, but to improve the environment so parents can have their baby instead of an abortion - yes we do want to go there.


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When it is not a fair choice then it is a forced abortion.

The parents (both the fathers and mothers) are pressured to get the abortion (pressured to choose the abortion) so that pressure makes it into a forced abortion because it is not a fair choice.

If we gave the parents (both parents) the options of real assistance to keep the baby as like maternity leave and a subsidy after the baby is born and universal health care for the mother and for the baby, and help the parents with whatever they need - then THEN the parents could make an honest choice to have an abortion or not to.

 

You keep repeating that parents are pressured to get abortions but you NEVER NEVER say WHO is pressuring them. You NEVER say when or where or how EVER...

Give proof ................... and repeating it isn't proof........only children think that.....

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/15/us-adoption-domestic-waits-idUSBRE90E15Y20130115
So it's more expensive and longer than ever to adopt. Why again is it better to just kill the babies?

 

There are no babies killed in abortion.

 

You are just being too hostile, and the Mods have already tapped me once because of my reply to you, so if you continue like this then I will start avoiding you and your rants.

Even here you write in your big bold words "NEVER NEVER" but in fact I did tell about the pressure in my comment if you had read it or put any effort into reading it, so your claim is untrue and it is just belligerent and I have very little motivation to play with you in such things.

Still I will answer and spell out the pressure because the subject is important to me.

PROOF:
When the parents (not necessarily both parents but just the mothers) who can not afford to have her baby then that is real PRESSURE to get an abortion - and the poorest of parents getting an abortion are the ones who matter the most because theirs is a forced abortion without any honest choice.

So being unable to afford their baby is NOT a free or fair choice, because either she must get the abortion or else she (the mother) faces the inability to pay for having the baby and THAT pressure makes it into a forced abortion and it is happening all the time.

If we give the mother (both parents or just the mother) assistance like free health care for her self and for the baby and provide whatever the parent(s) need for having a baby - THEN - then the mother (or both parents) would be free to make a fair and honest choice to get an abortion or not to.

If we are going to give the parents a "pro-choice" then it needs to be a free fair and honest choice instead of those parents being forced into an abortion based on the unjust reality that the parent(s) can not afford to have their own baby.

 

OH so you're saying LIFE pressures them....well, LIFE pressures everyone to make decisions and NO one is OWED a baby.

 

It is not better, it simply works for us as a society. There always will be people who do not plan their pregnancy and become pregnant accidentally. The thing we should care in this case is not an unborn fetus and its mythical rights but the fact our society is probably going to get another wannabe criminal with no social background.

 

Yes, better to liquefy the developing child, so the woman can avoid the inconvenience of having her cervix stretched open.