Is it true that the Church doesn't believe the Homosexuals can love?

I don't know how moral this issue is?
All that I've heard about regarding homosexuality, and it all seems to be about the physical behavior and abstaining from that behavior. So does the Church view the motivation of homosexuals to be purely out of a physical lust? What does the Church say about the love behind homosexual relationships? Is that love valid? What can those feelings be called if not love?
I am really interested to get good answers!!!

 

Well, I'm assuming by "the Church" you mean the Roman Catholic Church. It would really surprise me if they taught that homosexuals were capable of loving one another. The church I grew up in taught that no one was capable of love unless they had converted.

 

Nah,...
The Bible is as much against Straight people as it is against Gays for telling people about their sex lives, especially children.

If Gays and the promiscuous people would think of the damage they do to the kids, who suffer every abuse as children being fatheress and raised by mothers on Welfare, then there would be not complaints.

 

I don't know of many churches that get that deeply involved with understanding homosexuality.

In my opinion, love is love. If you're gay, then continue being gay. Being homosexual doesn't prevent you from going to heaven. You can quote me on that.

 

Adam and Eve raised a murderer. How many single mothers do that?

 

Most of the mainstream religions are homophobic and misogynous.

They have known for some time that their discrimination is not justified and are slowly coming to their senses. Is lam is slow as compared to the quick flip Christians and Catholics did.

Go Gnostic Christian. As Universalists, we are not homophobic nor misogynous. We do not discriminate without a just cause.

Regards
DL

 

Homosexuals have no relevance at all to this.

 

it depends on what your definition of love is. Married spouse wants a divorce because she/he falls out of " love". Meaning that spouse is no longer getting self- gratification. So is love a feeling of self- gratification? Or is true love staying with your spouse and making it work for the sake of the children? Or taking care of your sick spouse who is draining all your financial and emotional resources?

Sexual attraction does not equal love....
Self-gratification does not equal love.

A man and a woman....one of each...is God's plan according to the Bible. That's it. No human can show true love to the extent that God can.

 

This would depend on which church you're referring to. Answer could range from that love being perfectly valid, to all love being entirely invalid unless you're god.

 

There's the answer to the question posed by the thread. They not only think we're incapable of love, they apparently think we don't know what love is.

From my viewpoint, they're the ones living in ignorance of what love truly is.

 

It seems that the kind of people who insist that transgendered people don't exist (if you have a penis then you're a man, regardless of how you feel) are the same kind of people who are overly concerned about where body parts go... or shouldn't go. Everything comes down to sex organs in their simple world.

 

Nope I didn't say that. I was saying that love is not really a factor as most people aren't capable of pure love. Relationships are based for the most part on gratification.

 

and your god's 'pure love', that which demands unbridled adoration and worship (on pain of eternal torture), isn't self-gratification? that's not even love, much less pure. That is pure contempt.

 

not always. I don't cater to 'notions' of gender (if you have a dick you're a boy), and I'm entirely comfortable with homosexuality. I see psychiatric malfunction in gender confusion, but not in gayness.

 

"The Church" is a bit ambiguous as there are something like 2.2 billion Christians in dozens of denominations. I have never heard of a Church that has the position that homosexuals cannot love, but it is possible some sect is out there. I am sure out of roughly 2.2 billion Christians that some have it in their head that homosexuals cannot love, but such bias says more about them than anything else.

 

That's odd, ours is based on shared interests, supporting/caring for each other, and mutual respect. Kinda feel bad for anyone who doesn't have that in their relationship with their spouse.

 

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Is this the same God who, at the end of days, will kill the vast majority of us in hell and the lake of fire?

How do you see a God who kills when he can just as easily cure, as a loving God?

Would a loving God not cure those he says he loves instead of killing them?

Regards
DL

 

Which church are you referring to? Seriously.

I know of no biblical reference that denies that homosexuals can't love. Somebody
must have made this up.

 

I'm confused as well.
If in a lifetime, one finds no need to pander to God then they should have no problem accepting that they spend the rest of eternity not in God's presence (a.k.a heaven) but as far away as possible (a.k.a lake of fire)

I dunno man, love takes on a whole different meaning when somebody sends their son to die for people that probably don't deserve it. Which coincidentally is the cure that you are speaking of. It's a damn shame that we take the cure practically trample all over it.

For the record, I am no expert. Just thought I'd point those out.

 

I think you are right that the truest measure of love involves a willingness to sacrifice but there is not a single measure you proposed that does or cannot apply to same sex marriages and same sex relationships. Literally thousands upon thousands of gay men died in the arms of someone who loved them enough to care for them despite a drain of finances and emotional resources. The only difference is they had no legal rights to direct medical care when their loved one was no longer competent. They had no way to fight for equal access, and they were often often left in the cold with respect to insurance, probate , social security survivor benefits because they were not married.

No one dare tell the gay community about the sacrifices of marriage in times terminal illness, when it is the sacrifices without the benefit of marriage that really are heroic. We sure as hell did not wash our lovers, feed our lovers, or fight for our lovers health and comfort day after day. through fever after fever, infection after infection because 'society' told us it was our duty as a spouse. Now that, pal, is love.

 

Well, about 70% of prisoners are products of single parents, so quite a few single parents have raised murderers...

http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/ar...ween-single-parent-families-and-crime/265860/

 

That is not the cure I speak of. That is a cure from an insane and immoral God.

What God is such a prick that he will condemn people for being exactly what he created them to be, and then decide to forgive them, but instead of just forgiving them, decides that it is somehow better to have his son murdered to appease his own wrath instead of just forgiving us outright.

Seriously. Do you think you would do that if you were God?

Regards
DL

 

They were trained by the father of murderers. God himself.

Eve was correct in eating of the tree of knowledge and rejecting God.

It was God's plan from the beginning to have Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit. This can be demonstrated by the fact that the bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or *******ned sin.

1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

This indicates that Jesus had no choice.

If God had not intended humans to sin from the beginning, why did he build into the Creation this "solution" for sin? Why create a solution for a problem you do not anticipate?

God knew that the moment he said "don't eat from that tree," the die was cast. The eating was inevitable. Eve was merely following the plan.

This then begs the question.

What kind of God would plan and execute the murder of his own son when there was absolutely no need to?

Only an insane God. That’s who.

The cornerstone of Christianity is human sacrifice, thus showing it‘s immorality.

One of Christianity's highest form of immorality is what they have done to women. They have denied them equality and subjugated them to men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8EYIIR3g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dspWh9g3hU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c0RFxXrYzg&feature=related

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God was the first murderer when he murdered A & E by neglect and keeping them from what would have kept them alive. The tree of life.

God is both the father of lies as he did not disclose all the consequences of eating of the tree of knowledge and is also the father of murder both in planning the murder of Jesus and of A & E.

Regards
DL

 

That is a lot of deadbeat dads who allow, through neglect, to their children being turned to criminal activity.

Regards
DL

 

One might quote you, but they can not quote the Bible on that. Read the book of Romans. Have a good one