1. Switch E-Verify authorization to the Social Security Admin. They have the relevant data 2. Authorize a one year moratorium for ALL employers in the country to run their employees' SSN through the system to verify that it matches their name and issuance 3. At the end of the year, anyone employing someone not verified is automatically charged with a Federal felony charge to the person in HR who signed off on it. No fines levied, as they are easily payable. Same punishment for those employing illegals 'off the books'. 4. Tie all Federal & State benefits into the new E-Verification, i.e., illegal = not one thin dime. The illegals will self deport in a major exodus and our cost will be minuscule compared to the BS we now have. Of course, this will have to be rammed down the throats of the LIbs in Congress, but the look on their faces would be priceless.
Doesn't that place a law onus for enforcement on immigration law upon the corporation or sole proprietor? While I appreciate the sentiment, I have a hard time understanding why an individual or company that is not an entity of the federal government should go through the time and expense of trying to enforce a law that actual enforcement agencies should be doing. Now that being said, how would that stop anyone from employing undocumented workers under the table? If a company can get away with paying folks cash, bypassing any tax burden they may have and bypassing any expense of dealing with the paperwork involved in documenting employees, how would the above deter them?
Why no fines? What would be the point. Hiring illegals is the main problem, and giving them freebees or misinterpreting the anchor baby law is the other. All need to be stopped. If you are hiring an illegal alien (and give me a break with this BS I didn't know they were illegal, most of the employers are the one's helping them get fake ID's) it is organized slave labor. Having the fake ID's help them cheat the employees, and if you've ever worked at a business that deals with tourists, you will see employees changing their name tags regularly, so it coincides with their new fake ID's. Employers also pay them on the books, minimum wage but cash the checks and keep a percentage of the money they are paying to keep them on as employees. The entire process is a racket. Stop pretending the employers are innocent when they are the problem. Not to mention the one's getting paid under the table at below minimum wage.
The corporations won't be enforcing immigration law, they just won't hire someone who can't prove they're here legally. This would be the same as hiring a driver who has to have a driver's license; would they be enforcing traffic laws? Now if they want to enforce immigration law, the corporations are free to call the cops. I like BP's proposal.
I disagree. I see it as a proposal that would place the burden of enforcing immigration and employments laws on a business as opposed to on law enforcement agencies.
No one seems to have a problem with companies doing the leg work for the IRS and withholding taxes from every paycheck.
I am discussing the topic at hand, the proposals regarding immigration. I find them to be placing a burden upon companies, potentially stifling business with regulations regarding employment and the associated costs of them. I think it is the job of the government to ensure that those who seek employment are actually eligible, and not the job of a business to do so.
This doesn't really solve the fundamental problem. You have a wealthy aristocracy which through the miracle of mega-agricultural corporations own practically all of the farmland in the U.S. How can less than 1% of the population possibly farm this much land you ask? Why illegal immigrants of course. You didn't expect the wealthy elite to plow their own fields do you? Nobody in the U.S. will work for $7.00 / hr, without benefits or health care to farm. So they turn to migrants. The real problem is that if you get rid of the migrants, where is 90% of our food going to come from?
Libertarians and Conservatives hate E-Verify, cause they see it as "Big Brother" and the "NWO". they don't think the big bad Federal government has any business demanding proof that all workers are legal workers.
I do too. If the companies that hired illegals didn't check or turned a blind eye, let them prove it. OR let the SSA coordinate with the IRS crosschecking databases and companies that are found to employ illegals are fined $250,000 each and jail time for the one that hired them. Give them the choice to do it themselves or let the Government do it for them with a huge bill if caught. Then we can add that the employ of illegals breaks the corporate veil and the Officers/Owners become personally financially responsible as well. No matter how it's accomplished the penalties for hiring illegals should be so high that it's not cost effective to hire them.
Actually, my solution would be this. If your company is found to be hiring illegals, you lose your company, the owner of the company goes to federal prison for 5 years. If you are a landlord found to be housing illegals, you lose your land, the property owner goes to federal prison for 5 years. That should clear up the illegal problem pretty quickly, no where to live, no where to work, time for illegals to go home.
Employers already check their working ability by the I-9 form and its requirements, they send it along with the required documentation to IRS already, it takes 6 weeks to here back, E-verify would make this immediate and stop it from happening to begin with, thus saving the employer money on training the illegal only to find out that when the employer receives a letter back from IRS and questions said employee, the employee then fails to show up thereafter. That training could go to a legal worker immediately. You obviously have never own or ran a business, the employer is already required to do all this. E-verify would cut out the wait time on employee verification saving the employer money on training and then having to look for another employee after the illegal quits showing up. There is nothing that would prevent under the table wages, so it is pretty much a non-sequitur. It will however keep honest companies honest while companies less than honest will eventually stand out to the IRS and be more prone top audits by IRS and Employment agencies.
i'ts SIMPLE, folks. offer $1000 rewards for snitching on employers who hire illegals, and REALLY pay off, and youll get all the info you need to shut down such people.
A good portion of our food is imported already. Mechanization is the next step in progression. Most migrants make far more then $7 per hour (basic research ) The majority of farm workers are in fact citizens and legal immigrants (PEW research). - - - Updated - - - Then why have conservatives been the ones pushing it? It is Progressives that make fallacious claims about it, and Libertarians are quite simply inane.
The Pew Institute. Who do you think owns the farms? These would be the same Pews that bought up a ton of land during the Great Depression right? Don't hold your breath waiting for them to write an introspective piece. http://nfwm.org/education-center/farm-worker-issues/low-wages/ http://kochtruths.blogspot.com/2014/04/debunking-pew-family-claims.html
I disagree. I see it as a fantasy to impose a burdensome regulation upon private industry in a desire to expand both the scope and size of government.
Good ideas, but the problem is not coming up with good ideas, but that these could never get through Congress and get the President's signature. Some House members tried to get an E-Verify Bill through last year and Boehner nixed it. They don't want to solve this problem.
I never hear a leftist worrying about the poor, poor, corporations and their problems with regulations and their costs until immigration comes up. Then suddenly Leon Trotsky becomes Ayn Rand.
The nfwm? Hell, they don't even have a date on their "study". I like my link better http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/07/29/farm-immigration-debate/2595697/ Kochtruths.blogspot? LMFAO Do you not know what the PEW Research Center is? Joseph Pew nor his family has anything to do with the PEW research Center. http://www.pewresearch.org/ and for the founder https://www.google.com/search?q=Pew...e=utf-8#q=Pew+research+founded+by+who&spell=1 True Progressive.
You can disagree all you want, employers would be doing nothing more than they already are doing, only it would be immediate versus wasting time and money training an illegal just to have to do it all again once the illegal quit showing up after the employer received back a no-match letter. Those costs eventually get covered by the consumer, you do understand rising costs, right?
I disagree. I think it is the job of the government to enforce laws, not to place undue burdens on a business to try and enforce them. The notion of "self deportation" on some kind of mass level due to government over regulation seems exceedingly silly to me.
The govt is enforcing the law, the employer is merely inputting the required info into the govt web site to verify work eligibility, the employer already does this and has been doing so for a very long time, the employer photo copies the required documents and sends them to the govt for verification. The employer is also required to keep these records long after the employee has quit or was fired, just for the purpose of IRS audits. The notion of self deportation or maybe the ability to prevent them from coming in the forst place if they know they have no means to make it might just deter them too. Do you believe there should be no work verification what-so-ever? Are you attempting to say you agree with Progressive Libertarians?
You honestly trust the person who says "We pay our illegal immigrants $10.50 an hour" You can trust farmers. They're not like the others.
I disagree. For starters, this is not a law, it is a thought, the ramblings of an anonymous person on the internet. Second, if it was a law, it would be a potential employer tasked with enforcing it insomuch as the employer is the one that would deny employment to the person in the rather unlikely dream the potential employee woudl leave the country.
