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Assuming you actually do support gun rights, you are mistaken in thinking you are safe because you are just a hunter. Gun banners want to take your guns too.

After Sandy Hook, Feinstein released her proposed "assault weapons ban" including a list of all the firearms to be banned. It included far more than just AK and AR type rifles - almost every semi-automatic center fire rifle was on the list, many semi-auto shotguns, and a number of pump action shotguns. I'm sure you can find her proposed legislation and list on the internet if you are curious.

At the same time, some banners were overconfident and prematurely started the next phase in the gun ban agenda. They started talking about banning what they called "sniper rifles" - scoped bolt action rifles. In other words, hunting rifles. If you are a hunter, then you are next on their list.

And there is the recent attempt by the ATF to ban the M855 "green tip" 5.56 cartridge. People think that was an attempt to just ban that one type of ammunition, it was not. What the ATF was doing was changing the rule regarding sporting exemptions and the definitions of "sporting activities", "sporting use" and "sporting purposes". The M855 was just a convenient first target and - at least banners thought - an easy sell to the public. If they succeeded in their efforts, then every type of rifle ammunition was subject to being banned except 22 rimfire. That includes hunting rifle ammunition.

The various gun rights organizations serve as a focal point for protecting gun rights and keeping an eye on the gun banners. Join whatever groups you want to join and feel comfortable with, but its a disservice to spread the gun banner propaganda about the NRA. In the end, you are shooting yourself in the foot.

 

no, you CANT have limitations on it and have it still be a 'natural, inalienable" right. If you limit it, then i'ts a privilege, which can be denied ANYONE by the govt.

 

Something that you are an expert in, being a convicted felon.

 

Hunters are definitely in the crosshairs of the anti gun legislators.

 

do you feel it is an obligation to chase him around and retort to his comments....let it alone and the lack of response will do the work you cannot...he will die for lack of feed and care.

 

the gun banners main goal is to get rid of groups that support pro freedom/ anti socialist politicians. if people can no longer hunt, or target shoot, chances are lots of them won't continue to pay dues to groups that promote hunting or target shooting. and without dues, those groups can no longer oppose the creeping crud of collectivization which is the main political philosophy of almost every gun banning leader

 

Yeah I tend to ignore his wanna be nonsense. I have been involved in the "gun culture" since my dad took me shooting at age 7 and that led to shooting in a couple world championships, 3 Olympic Trials, some world cups and tons of pistol and shotgun as well as more than a few rifle tournaments. I have represented gun clubs, gun dealers, machine gun makers and then various government LE agencies. And most of what that guy says is either captain obvious DUH stuff or poorly supported opinions. LIke Mr "appeal to fallacy" best ignored most if not all of the time

 

What about the environmentalists who complain about lead bullets? What do you think of that?

 

more idiocy though in a few cases they have a point-such as shooting lead bird shot that falls into wetlands where some birds consume it. In that case they have a point. but the problem with environmentalists is the same problem with any group that sees as a MEANS to their ultimate end-governemnt control over private property or private actions. those groups invariably get taken over by people who's GOAL is government control.

which is why the environmental, animal rights and gun control movements are 99% left wing run

some of the early environmental actions were sound-like opposing corporations dumping toxic waste into public lakes, streams and rivers
factories spewing toxic fumes or smoke without any effort to scrub it first
or people shooting animals like Raptors or Wolves for the silly reason that those animals kill domesticated animals when hawks actually help say chicken farmers by killing rats which eat lots of chicken eggs and chicks

but most of the whining about lead bullets (very few hunting bullets are pure lead-most are jacketed with copper save for 22 rim fires) is anti gun rather than pro environment

 

I think they're illegal in CA. Also, lead weights on fishing lines. Or maybe they were just trying to ban them, but I remember either reading or hearing about that on the news.

 

Despite Facts, California Completely Bans Lead Ammo for Hunting

Fact vs. Emotion

 

Interesting! I knew I had heard about that before!

 

I'm sure you are aware how stupid liberals are, especially environmentalists. And California has more stupid people than any other state.

California is wild fire country. What happens when two metals or ferrous metals strike each other like steel hitting granite ? SPARKS !!!

 

It gets more and more sticky. Lead ammo is being eliminated. Copper is the logical replacement. Howeva...
We just had all of the discussion regarding the proposed ban of M855 ball ammo. The definition of "armor piercing" was found, and guess what that definition includes? Among other things, solid copper bullets. Now what?
Copper jacketed Bismuth is a very viable alternative. Bismuth is just one number heavier than lead by atomic number. Here comes that Howeva....
Bismuth is a by product of lead smelting. The last lead smelting plant in the US has been shut down. There is actually very little lead smelting of raw ore being done in the world these days, because the bulk of lead being used is coming from reclaimed car batteries. The Bismuth that is available comes from foreign sources, and it's expensive.

 

We need to stop feeding the troll.

 

lead shot for shotgun shells is now 43 dollars for 25 pounds

in the mid nineties to early 2000s it was 13 dollars

 

Environmentalists are blamed not only for the push to prohibit lead ammunition in the state of California, they are also blamed for the current drought the state is experiencing, as they have opposed every attempt at increasing the state's water supply, while the state population continues to grow.

When both policy attempts collide, the state of California will be ignited, and there will be no way of extinguishing the fire.

Perhaps environmentalists should be reclassified as terrorists for such an outcome occurring.

 

FBI: Eco-Terrorism Remains No. 1 Domestic Terror Threat

While Gov. Moonbeam tells California that a 20 minute shower will cost you $500 in fines, he and the progressive liberals in the state legislature still have the welcome mat out at the California/Mexico border.

 

LOL, that is so wildly extreme and biased its actually a bit funny. I have a hard time believing anyone - even you - actually believes what you wrote.

 

Clearly you haven't heard about these things happening because you haven't wanted to learn about it. Its been happening in certain neighborhoods for quite some time, but alas the media doesn't tell you that because it might not look good. Of course the neighborhoods in question are never on the liberal hit list, and never associated with the NRA, but continue with your rant of questionable repute...