Ben Carson Brings Story of Self-Reliance to 2016 Race

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  1. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, let the race begin! Dr Carson is one of my favorites, he is an honest man that worked his way to medical fame and greatness. I will now wait for the liberal bashing from this forum containing varying racial innuendos.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/04/u...story-of-self-reliance-to-2016-race.html?_r=0

    Mr. Carson’s biography will feature prominently in his campaign. His mother, Sonya Carson, had only a third-grade education, but he went on to graduate from Yale and the University of Michigan Medical School, and at age 33 was named chief of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, becoming the youngest person, and the first black, to hold the title.
     
  2. Daniel Light

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    How does the saying go ... What's the difference between God and a doctor? God doesn't think he's a doctor.

    Carson doesn't strike me as someone who could build a coalition with Congress, nor a person who would have the patience to deal with a bureaucracy. He also has no experience in international diplomacy.

    Now I know some conservatives will say that Obama did not have the experience either ... but would those same people say that Obama was a good President?
     
  3. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    Yep we heard the same story about Herman Cain and just when it looked like he was going to win the nomination, KABOOM:bomb:, somebody ran the Cain Train off the tracks.
     
  4. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now I know you say? Obama has proven to be a divisive inept liar, who was a community organizer

    I'll use the liberal meme from the Obama campaign, "if you don't vote for Carson you're a racist" :roflol:

    It's only about race when a liberal is running for office
     
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    if you don't vote for Carson, you must be a #racist


    (liberal logic #backfire)


    funny how when a white didn't vote for Obama, it was because of racism.... but now, somehow, it will be different
     
  6. Grizz

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    Carson has never run for nor held elective office. That he is a very intelligent person is without question, but whether he can govern if elected is unknown. And president is not a job you want to give to a newbie in the political arena.
     
  7. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What does Cain have to do with Carson? Are you implying the liberal attack machine has Carson cheating on his wife? We all know that cheating on your wife is only important to liberals when it's a republican running for office

    The only skeleton in Carson's closet was when he studied anatomy in med school
     
  8. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You would think your statement would be embraced by every American because he is not a corrupt political machine being given millions from people that want a favor returned for their investment
     
  9. Gatewood

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    We are in complete agreement; which was why it was beyond stupid in 2008 for the Left to put a first term U.S. senator with ZERO meaningful national level experience into the Oval Office. So we are reduced to hoping that GOP voters are more intelligent, better educated, and deeper thinkers on the whole than were the average Dem Party voters of 2008? Shudder!
     
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    Pretty much one and the same.

    Nope, that was the conservative attack machine that put Cain on blast.

    .............and it is only important to right wingers when a democrat is running for office, so its tit for tat.

    When he runs we will see.
     
  11. Think for myself

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    Impressive. Carson, the self made man who through hard work and determination became a famed pediatric neurosurgeon.

    It is a compelling story, but is it truly all of the facts? Wasn't he at least partially raised whilst his mother was on welfare and/or government subsidies?

    Carson, in his book, tells how his grades improved tremendously when a government program provided him with free eyeglasses because he could barely see. Not only that, in “Gifted Hands” we read this nugget: “By the time I reached ninth grade, mother had made such strides that she received nothing but food stamps. She couldn’t have provided for us and kept up the house without that subsidy.

    Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/03/26/186905/commentary-dr-ben-carsons-baffling.html#storylink=cpy

    He does admit that he believes he benefited form affirmative action.

    "I believe that I benefited from affirmative action."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/04/u...story-of-self-reliance-to-2016-race.html?_r=1

    I think that Carson tells a very compelling story. It simply is presented in a fashion most favorable to him, and not necessarily wholly accurate.
     
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    Well, I didn't mention that when it comes to his positions, he's a serious right wing whack job and very near the head of that long line. Really, I do try to be polite sometimes.
     
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    Yes, you know republicans like him who want to actually help all Americans especially black Americans be the best they can be. Helping Americans achieve their full potential is something to be outraged about as we can see by your post
     
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    one would think we learned that lesson with Obama. Speaking of which what do you think hillarys greatest political accomplishment as SOS or NY Senator was. Can you name a bill she wrote as Senator perhaps, or some great foreign policy she was instrumental in enacting ?.
     
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    Hey, dude. Where did I mention race? I mention experience, and you quick draw the race card.
     
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    Isn't Carson the one who compared the ACA to American slavery?
    That's not gonna go over well.
     
  17. BroncoBilly

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    I was getting ahead of the liberal meme, don't worry, it's coming

    Your experience comment is a non starter, especially experiencing two terms of the most divisive lying inept president in US history

    How's that for a response "DUDE"
     
  18. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Well, Bush allowed 3,000 Americans to die on American soil, doubled the debt, started two wars he couldn't finish, let Bin Laden escape, and left office with a 28% approval rating - oh and lied about WMD.


    But that was not where I went with my initial response - you went there.
    How's that for a rebuttal, dude.
     
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    I think Ben Carson will be relying on the group of right wing scam artists that are in his campaign to raise a lot of money which will be laundered to right wing K Street operatives, and maybe funnelled back into Carson's pocket before he drops out.
     
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    Actually, compared to Carson, Obama was highly experienced in the area that matters -- politics.

    Obama spent 8 years in the Illinois Senate, ran (and lost) for a U.S. House seat, then ran and won a U.S. Senate seat, and served for four years before deciding to run for President.

    So by the time Obama ran, he had 12 years more political experience than Carson has, and had already run three election campaigns.

    Carson holds bumper-sticker political positions that he will have difficulty explaining, much less selling to the general public. He has zero foreign-policy experience, which isn't necessarily a killer, but he also seems to have very limited foreign policy KNOWLEDGE, which is. His habit of throwing out ignorant red-meat phrases (like comparing the ACA to slavery) just makes him look politically ignorant and partisan.

    He will flame out early, as just another fringe candidate in the clown car of GOP presidential primary candidates.
     
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    He's a fake candidate.

    He's doing it to sell books and raise his speaking fees.

    He's got a lot more class that Herman Cain did (who is an outright con man). But he learned from Cain.

    He doesn't have the chops to be a serious candidate, much less the experience to serve as an elected official.
     
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    Lol...Considering the clown car of idiots that the cons have been running recently they will fail again on every criteria.
     
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    The GOP's nominative process aspires to be an Ed Sullivan Show with no shortage of novelty acts. Can they maintain the level of entertainment provided by the Palins, Trumps, Bachmanns and Cains? They've set a high bar for themselves! (That Huckabee is a hoot!)

    It is ironic that the same jamokes who reviled the twice-elected incumbent's years of elective public service as being too meager as preparation for the presidency now enthuse over Benny "Bones" Carson whose political resumé is indistinguishable from Zippy the Pinhead's, but then, those who were in a tizzy over nationalized RomneyCare nominated Romney, so rational, consistent behavior is clearly too much to ask of some folks.

    That said, I do support Bones in his one area of expertise, medical care, when he advocates for socialized medicine. It would be far more efficient than the RomneyCare the nation is stuck with.

     
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    Ah, the majority of the centrist American electorate is actually that nebulous "the Left!" that alienated Angry White Guys fixate upon incessantly!

    Mystery finally resolved!
     
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    Sorry, but there's nothing I've seen so far from him that would help anyone below the top 1%'ers, but he sure does have a plan or two for them:

    Mr. Carson has expressed support for a flat tax on all Americans, not to exceed 15 percent, using the supply-side argument that lower tax rates would help the economy and ultimately generate higher tax revenues. He says a flat tax would eliminate loopholes and cheating, and he has called for eliminating the Internal Revenue Service.

    He also believes that the age of eligibility for receiving Social Security benefits should gradually be raised because people are living longer, straining the solvency of the program.


    He's naïve enough to believe that a flat tax, with no loopholes, would actually pass Congress. He believes in trickle-down economics, which has been proven time and again to benefit only the wealthy; and somehow, he doesn't seem to understand that a modest increase in the maximum SS cap would solve a lot of problems, nor is he apparently aware that there are a lot of people in this country who don't sit at a desk all day and physically burned out well before even 65.
     

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