Wisconsin lawmakers advance new rules for food stamp users

You go, Curly!

Tell us how you really feel.

 

A requirement to buy healthy food with foodstamps has little chance of being enforced. I'm not sure they've shorn up the casino and strip joint loopholes yet.

Drug screening for state job training applicants. Does anyone think the drug using recipients will be applying for state job training programs?

Drug screening for SOME unemployment recipients? Some? 3% who fail, appeal, and win?

What ever happened to having recipients prove they're looking for work by checking out copies of the alleged applications.

 

Dude, you do understand we are footing the bill for free stuff, right? If they take the money, there are conditions. The alternative would be to not accept the money. This is so simple my 12 yr old understands it. But she has common sense, so she does have an advantage here.

 

I'm just educating some people who don't think very often.

 

Excellent post. Excellent!

Here's what I'll add:

Fact: Mooch instituted her school lunch starvation program to keep kids healthy and avoid healthcare costs in the future.

Fact: California was the first state to ban trans fats in restaurants in order to remove perceived health risks.

Fact: NYC's Mayor Bloomberg tried to ban large sodas due to the health risks involved.

Fact: Obama and his liberal buddies passed Obamacare so in case you find yourself unhealthy you can get healthy.

After reading that, you would think Obama, Mooch, Moonbeam and Bloomberg would be out in front of anything that causes the most likely of us who eat unhealthy to eat healthy. Since when does a liberal pass up an opportunity to exercise control? When they know they'll lose votes over it, that's when.

 

A few strings? Regulating what a person can eat to that level, that's pretty invasive. A few strings attached to the poor now can easily be justified to mean a few string attached to anything. The federal government and the state government provide a lot. Should the police officers be able to search a person's house without a warrant because they are providing security to everyone?

But even then, why should the government even go that far? The point of welfare in the US is to get out of it, it's just something that people should rely upon when they need it. A lot of people don't go on it without voluntarily, but because they have to, how are they responsible for being laid off when the economy tanks? Shouldn't they have the comfort of knowing that a brighter future is possible? Sometimes a cake can do that, a beer every now and then can be a good thing. People need hope for a better future, and sometimes the best way to do it is through food.

 

Really milo? There are Messiah Obama worshippers here? Must be like shooting fish in a barrel as they defend their beloved one.

 

..........well, then, YOU feed them, pay for their *expenditures* then get back to us about the rib eyes and escargot you have supplied them with.
If you take a small system of decent food, overload it with many applicants, you only have a few choices on how to take care of them.
But first, you need to decide what incentives must in place to encourage leaving the free stuff behind and earning your way.
Once the moochers are gone, then the better quality of food will be available for those who actually need it.
So, do you feed them well enough to keep them hanging around, or do you feed them just well enough to go find a better situation.
I know, it's a tough choice, but the more people you allow at someone else's table, the lower the quality of food.
If people want to keep adding plates at the Table of Free Stuff, they can probably will see a reduction not only the quality of food, but the availability of food.
I can't imagine the rich are going to donate their filet mignion and tri-tips................especially if their choice is Hamburger Helper or tri-tip
I have kept saying that the economy isn't as good as it's being touted. Some personal economy is faring well, but is not the same as national or global. Our US economy has been limping along for the past 25 years, suffering small strokes (economic downturn). We like to blame who ever is in charge, but the problem isn't with him, he's just another stooge. The problem is operating a debt-bearing economy like there's no end. We hit the brick wall, again. The result are large numbers of lay offs, poor paying jobs, and no COLA for the middle class.
You are only going to see more need for aid. That reduces the effectiveness of the aid to such a point that it might as well not be kept functioning at all. The impact is a domino effect in action.
There's only so much to go around. Something's got to give.....

 

1. Economic downturns are part of any economy, in fact wanted.
2. Our economy is strong enough to feed everyone.
3. Why only me or a few other sympathizers? A community effort involves the entire community, whether some members of it like it or not.

 

well, get yer buddies together and pay for it yourselves. Don't come demanding I pay for your utopian dreams.
common socialist rhetoric...and honest and real community support those who support the community, not the free loaders.
How many plates are you setting tonight and are you serving those poor dead beat lobster? or crawdad.......
Regardless, there's still only so much to go around. ... and we've just about hit the end of the line...

 

Yes, real community support is telling them they can't have a birthday cake for their birthday.

 

You're right again.

 

No doubt you said the same about Michelle Obama's lunch program...

 

They can have as much cake as you're willing to buy them.

 

We already have a federal food assistance program that limits what the recipients can buy. It's called WIC...Women, Infants and Children. It is a federal program that provides nutritional assistance to women and their children (under age 5). There are shelf tags at your local supermarket that indicate that a specific product is approved for purchase by the WIC program.

My point is that the federal government is already mandating healthy food purchases in the WIC program, so it wouldn't be a big stretch to mandate that 2/3 of SNAP benefits are used to purchase healthy food. Why should our taxpayer dollars be used to purchase soda and Cheetos?

 

Why me? Why not everyone? Are you saying you don't think poor people should celebrate their birthday with a birthday cake?

 

They can celebrate their birthdays with whatever they can afford or you choose to buy them. There is no right, Constitutionally or by law of God, that says every man, woman and child gets a free birthday party every year paid for by someone they don't know.

 

Didn't we break away from Great Britain in order to have "life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness"? Shouldn't our government reflect that? Even if it's not a law, shouldn't people have a cake on their birthday? And if the government is the one telling them no they can't, is that really what we want?

 

I don't.

So what is it here? One minute you guys hate tradition and the next you're all for it. What gives?

 

other than self-serving, what good is a birthday cake?
So, again, what would convince me that I should pay more than I can afford to allow people to live better than me?

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you did know that public birthday parties are outlawed in Australia, eh?

 

Hope. If welfare exists so that a person can rise up and try again tomorrow, there must be hope as well that a better tomorrow is possible.

What? Unless your pride is telling you not to be on welfare, that doesn't make much sense.

Ok. And?

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So what do you do for your birthday? Simply reconigizing people have a birthday isn't hating tradition. It's reconigizing what people do.

 

On my birthday I do whatever I want, usually nothing.

So it's recognizing what people do, eh? Then on my birthday, or 9 months before it, I should be recognizing my parents.

Back to the topic at hand, wasn't there a thread around here citing the obesity rates for people on food stamps and Welfare?

 

Would that not be implied? Not everyone who goes against the right wing is a leftist.

 

Brian told me this place was overrun with blind Obama zombies. He wasn't kidding, was he?

 

Nope. Wasn't kidding.