When Chicago cops shoot

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicag...fry-cops-cedrick-chatman/Content?oid=17767928
"Since 1986 more than 1,600 people have been shot by Chicago police officers—an average of more than one person a week. ​In the 208 cases closed over the last two years, not a single shooting has been found to be unjustified. Should we be reassured?"

This is how you know, without doubt that there are coverups and endemic corruption at all levels. If it was a real system and not in place basically to protect the officers there would be SOME unjustified shootings, there is never 100% success rate with anything.

 

Cops are militarized and professional criminal society in this country. Even if the Police officers are the biggest/most powerful gang in the country, as many people mockingly say, they are even close to the most powerful gang in Chicago. I would even bet they were in the top 5.

 

I don't know... the use of a firearm by a police officer is usually a measured response. To first have the gun drawn, usually indicates a possible threat. To be trained to only pull the trigger if a threat was real... all of that improves the % rate. You would have to go through every case to be certain. I'm not sure it seems like a lot.

 

That might have been the case years back, but so many Youtube clips these days clearly shows that the police are out of control and will shoot you dead without hesitation. And generally speaking, the authorities go out of their way to protect police officers committing murder, although there has been at least one recent case where an officer was charged with murder though (the Walter Scott murder). However, as a convinced cynic I wouldn't be at all surprised if the prosecution's case mystically failed to deliver a conviction.

 

It is almost impossible to send even the vilest scum to jail in the US. The fact that we have such a large prison population anyway speaks to something.

 

Yes, prison and particularly privately run prisons are an enormous business these days and there have been a number of cases involving corrupt judges handing down undeserved sentences in exchange for a kickback. Utterly disgraceful.

 

As we all know, the police shoots at people who runs away... and that is how people die.
Now a person who runs away is no threat to the officer, obviously.

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The fact that the US has such a large prison populations speaks something indeed.
It screams... YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG
like a freaking 9gag meme.

 

Maybe.

 

Well, let's see here ... Chicago averages almost two homicides a day, nobody complains about that, but it has over 12,000-12,500 police officers, but someone finds the time to snivel about them averaging one shooting a week for years? In one of the most gang infested cities in the country? Gee, yeah, that's something to harp on, isn't it ... Shouldn't these bloodthirsty psycho cops at least be averaging one per week per officer, seeing as how it's like a Big Giant Rayciss Police State n stuff?

The Op's sniveling sounds a lot more like disappointment it has so few numbers than any remote grip on reality. Last time I drove through South Chicago I saw hundreds of people who should be shot on sight just for their ridiculously lousy fashion sense alone.

 

That last line cost Senator Barry Goldwater the Presidency in 1964...............

 

How true. Even turning away is considered sufficient cause to shoot a man in the back with an assault rifle:

[video=youtube;6tpAZObNZfI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tpAZObNZfI[/video]

 

So many? There are a handful of cops across America that have been shown to have issues. That accounts for a ridiculously small percentage of the many police officers in employment. I'm not gonna pretend there are bad eggs in any employment, but it's small. Really small.

"Protecting officers" would suggest that there is evidence of something fishy going on. If there is sufficient evidence I imagine it would be dealt with accordingly. You are talking conspiracy here, at least without any supporting facts.

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"The police" - no... as mentioned, "a few".
But it's easy. Don't run.

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Sometimes sacrifices are made for the pursuit of doing the right thing, rather than what is popular.

 

And your final paragraph clearly shows why nobody takes you seriously.

 

Well, look at all the Youtube clips of police brutality and shooting. There are plenty of those around now. Then bear in mind that most of these come from cameras taken by the public, so there must be an awful lot more not caught on film that get swept under the carpet, which has happened a number of times until the public picked up on the footage and made a stink about it.

But yes, as a percentage it is still small - but how many excuses can be made for what are de facto murders by police, and some simply awful brutality too.

My own sense is that it is habitual for police guilty of these types of crimes to attempt to cover their acts up - and colleagues and senior officers are disposed to believe them.

 

Being a small percentage does not excuse that small percentage. But it should most certainly not throw suspicion on other cops. It's like suggesting that all black people are gangbangers, because of a few. Or all liberals wear foil hats, because a few believe 9/11 was an inside job.

That would be true from almost any profession or personal situation of a similar story. If I killed someone, I would try to cover it up and my family would be likely to believe me. My work colleagues would likely believe me. I don't think that's something uniquely inherent of law enforcement.

 

I hear what you say, and yet throwing suspicion on other cops is exactly what is now happening - the riots this have attest to that. That's human nature at work. Hence there should be much more reason for senior officers in the police to stamp on this sort of activity immediately and heavily - instead of sweeping it under the carpet. The latter only compromises trust even more.

The problem I see in the US is that the poor and disenfranchised - more often than not black - see the police as acting to protect the interests of the wealthy few rather than the many, and since it's the poor and disenfranchised who form the greatest number of victims in these crimes, it's hard to argue against this.

I stay well away from tinfoil and liberals, but invite me to a serious discussion on 9/11 and we'll see how the facts fall. My motto is: trust in your government at your peril.

Human nature again. But who do you turn to if you no longer trust the police to do the right thing

I have to say that it's exactly the same here in the UK - albeit the carrying of weapons by the police is a great deal less and only reserved for special armed response units.

 

Oh for sure; but usually media inspires incorrect assumptions too. Are they sweeping it under the carpet, or are they indeed being investigated in the correct manner? Perhaps the law needs changed on how they are investigated to appease the masses.

 

LOL -- Give Joan Rivers a uzi and send her to S Chicago.

 

Yep, I agree. The main media are now part of the problem and not part of the solution as they used to be when the Fourth Estate held power to account.

I doubt the law needs changing. There was a time when doing the decent and right thing was more of a priority then it is today. We now suffer from the most cynical misuse of power. My conclusion is that the US is, indeed, now an oligarchy and the police serve that, and that no one is really prepared to ensure the laws are applied that would hold them to account.

 

In a time when recording someone in help to post it on youtube, rather than actually helping (not talking about cops here)... I'm amazed that most people know what "decent and right" is. It's a real shame what's happening to society on the whole. Maybe I'm just showing my age.

 

This isn't a gun or a bad cop problem, it's a problem with Black and Hispanic Supremacists who allow their cherished sons free license to form criminal organizations and control territory.

All but a tiny percent of those felons doing the killing on the streets of Chicago are Black and Hispanic.

Shame on them.

 

Obviously logical thinking in all cases.

However it is an analysis of symptoms not causes, but indicates areas of dysfunction accurately enough to know where focus can be productive, IF we could focus in meaningful ways as a population.

Therein is where the purpose of free speech is shown to be abridged AND vital IF function is the goal. It is encouraging to see things logically, repeatedly, pointing at a solution that should be pretty clear as soon as mentioned.

But, something in our psychological makeup as individuals comprising groups has us clinging to our solitary existences and what indulgence we might find there enabled by the actual functions of our social systems. Good temporarily perhaps, but the social systems are failing or being sabotaged and we are afraid to know the depth of the intrinsic problems and their causes.

 

Bad logic. How many incidents are there in total, compared to 'all the YouTube clips', most of which themselves don't capture the whole scenario, and in fact most of the ones puproporting to show 'police brutality' don't actually show that. The reason we don't see more ins most likely because they don't amount to anything sensational. Do you have 'all the clips that show nothing going on", or do you just cherry pick the ones you think show something that can be blown up into a big drama?

 

Offered in the spirit of seriousness the OP's conspiracy gibberish deserves.