British MP called to suspend any financial aid to the PA>>MOD WARNING<<

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  1. stuntman

    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    So according to you the UN and it's organizations can ignore the UN Charter?
     
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    unlike Neo-Zionists, we respect the UN Charter.
     
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    So you need to respect Article 80 that protects the rights of the Jews over "Palestine".
     
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    Yeah.. just go post a youtube propaganda thing from a self proclaimed zionistic organisation as if that trumps the International Court of Justice ruling on it. What a joke.

    Its not contradicting anything. Article 80 is not mentioning Israel or Jews.
    The actual charter article 80:
    http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter12.shtml
     
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    The UN Security Council, the International Court of Justice, even the damn Israeli Supreme Court says the West Bank is Occupied and under international law.
     
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    No they don't.
     
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    The man who claim such thing is an international law expert who wrote his thesis work and has 25 years of of research on that subject.

    I know what is written in the actuall Article 80, I used Article 80 numerous of times on this forum from the UN website.
    Article 80 PROTECTS the rights that were given to the Jews before 1946, which means that when it said: "nothing in this Chapter shall be construed in or of itself to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples....", then it referred to rights that were given by the League of Nations (as they gave the rights of the Jews in the document of the Mandate) prior to San Fransisco Conference 1946.
     
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    haha!!!

    you cherry pick the Article, and leave out "until such agreements have been concluded"

    meanwhile, as to your dishonest claim that the Mandate gave Jews exclusive right to live and settle in Palestine, the Mandate says this:

    "nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine"
     
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    And the document of the Mandate wasnt concluded, it was only the British Mandate that been concluded.
     
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    The Mandate was concluded in 1948.
     
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    Right, the British Mandate was concluded in 1948, but the document of the Mandate wasnt.
    After all, the Brits gave back the Mandate and the responsiblity to fullfil it to the UN.
     
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    The UN concluded the Mandate in 1948.
     
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    Right, the British Mandate was concluded in 1948, but the document of the Mandate wasnt.
     
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    The UN concluded the document of the Mandate in 1948.
     
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    our Founding Fathers were terrorists, according to YOUR definition. Right?
     
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    The British Mandate was concluded in 1948, but the document of the Mandate wasnt.

    If you are relying on resolution 181 when you say "the UN concluded the document of the Mandate", then it is not true, because resolution 181 wasnt accepted (the Jews accepted and the Arabs rejected), therefore the resolution was unvalid after the Arabs rejected, thus still the document of the Mandate was not concluded.
     
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    As I said:

    The British Mandate was concluded in 1948, but the document of the Mandate wasnt.

    If you are relying on resolution 181 when you say "the UN concluded the document of the Mandate", then it is not true, because resolution 181 wasnt accepted (the Jews accepted and the Arabs rejected), therefore the resolution was unvalid after the Arabs rejected, thus still the document of the Mandate was not concluded.
     
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    the United Nations disagrees with you.
     
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    If you are relying on resolution 181 when you say "the UN concluded the document of the Mandate", then it is not true, because resolution 181 wasnt accepted (the Jews accepted and the Arabs rejected), therefore the resolution was unvalid after the Arabs rejected, thus still the document of the Mandate was not concluded.
     
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    The General Assembly adopted a resolution which relieved the United Nations Palestine Commission from the further exercise of its responsibilities, and its mandate from the General Assembly was effectively terminated on May 14, 1948
     
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    Not quit, according to the resolution itself:
    Which means that becuase of the resolution that provided a (probably new) mediator from the UN in "Palestine" to issued on this matter was adopted, the General Assembley released the "Palestine" Commission from its responsibilities.
    Therefore, according to the resolution itself, the United Nations needs to appiont a mediator in "Palestine".

    Moreover, the resolution says as follows:
    Which means by saying "the 'Palestine' Commission in pursuance of its mandate from the General Assembly", it means that the mandate that the General Assembly gave to this commission to exercise it's responsibilites was over, and not the document of the Mandate.

    Source: http://unispal.un.org/unispal.nsf/1...c5e97ed405ea5d2d802564990059fe0a?OpenDocument

    BTW- the resolution also said:
    But of course, in 14th May, 1948, resolution 181 wasnt valid.
    BTW2- General Assembly's resolutions are not binding.
     
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    The Palestine Commission was relieved from its responsibilities in May, 1948.

    That was the end of the Mandate.
     
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    And according to the resolution the "Palestine" Commission was released beceause of a resolution that provided for the appointment of a United Nations Mediator in "Palestine".
    Also by saying "the 'Palestine' Commission in pursuance of its mandate from the General Assembly", it means that the mandate that the General Assembly gave to this commission to exercise it's responsibilites was over, and not the document of the Mandate.
     
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    the UN says you're wrong.
     
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