Society's right to regulate firearms

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Ronstar, Jun 3, 2015.

  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    White folks can't be gangbangers now? You racist or something?
     
  2. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    You consider yourself a conservative then? I'm talking about you and the rest of your gun right infringing ilk who think they can ignore the plain language of the law of the land because "muh feeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggsssssssssssssssss" and "times have channnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggeddddddddddddddddddd".

    If you've got so much support, do a constitutional amendment. The process is real clear, I can cite it for you if you're having trouble finding it.
     
  3. OrlandoChuck

    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    Conservatives have the reputation for being constitutionalists.
    It's the progressives that want to dismantle the constitution because it is an "outdated" document.
     
  4. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I post regularly on three message boards such as this

    EVERY SINGLE GUN BANNER or GUN RESTRICTIONIST is a leftist. I wonder why that is?
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    tell that to George Bush and his buddies, who tore apart Habeas Corpus and Due Process.
     
  6. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    so tell us Ronstar: what is your motivation for being in favor of gun bans and gun restrictions

    no one can possibly be so stupid as to believe that people who commit murder robbery or traffic in narcotics are going to be deterred by a gun law

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    not relevant. we are talking about gun laws that target honest people.
     
  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    dude, you've been arguing about this for years, in many forums.

    don't you think maybe its time for a new hobby?
     
  8. OrlandoChuck

    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    Obama has done the same only he has done exponentially.
     
  9. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I keep my name on each forum

    who are you on those other forums?

    and what is your motivation for being hostile to our rights

    Shooting is my hobby and now my profession

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    but he's different!

    [video=youtube;kTX6Q6_VFW8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTX6Q6_VFW8[/video]
     
  10. OrlandoChuck

    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    I'll bet you would like someone to go away that has beliefs different than yours.
     
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    arguing with people who support gun regulations isn't your hobby or your profession, and yet you do it all day long, throughout the internet.

    why?

    you don't change our views, but you do insult us.
     
  12. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    well those who want to end the second amendment generally aren't particularly in love with the First either

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    I again ask you what motivates your disdain for the second amendment

    I am not the topic. Its your hatred of our rights

    we know its not a desire to control criminals.
     
  13. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    every criminal started out as a law-abiding citizen.
     
  14. OrlandoChuck

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    That not why our court systems and prisons are overburdened by repeat offenders.
     
  15. nimdabew

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    Jail is a convienent place for political opponents in communist countries... I assume since he wants to adopt similar gun laws that have been adopted by communist countries, that that is the end goal. Fall in line or we will send you to jail; or worse.

    I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees like a sniveling subject.
     
  16. Xenamnes

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    We also know that every criminal started out being born from the union of two opposite sex adults.

    What precisely is your point? Do you seek to claim that everyone is a criminal, and some simply have not yet committed a crime? If so, then you are arguing against the liberal narrative of racism, by claiming all blacks are criminals, and all muslims are terrorists.

    Do not use such absolutist words as "every" and "all" unless you wish for your argument to be turned against you.
     
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    that's stupid, that's like saying every rapist starts out as a male

    why are you so unable to answer a direct question?

    when I see this sort of intense evasion its almost always because your anti gun motivations are based on bigotry towards the politics of what you perceive gun owners to have

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    what he is arguing for is prior restraint. using his "logic" castration at birth is the only way to prevent rape

    this is what happens when gun banners are forced to argue in favor of their STATED motivations versus their REAL motivations

    they cannot make much of an argument because they don't actually believe the facade they serve up as a pretext for their gun banning desires
     
  18. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    haha!!! QED

     
  19. OrlandoChuck

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    Exactly what gun regulations are you for? Are there any that only target criminals and not the responsible gun owner?
     
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    I can answer that one. He desires to see all the draconian laws that are imposed upon him in New York be applied across the US. That's a bit assbackwards if you ask me. He should be demanding the same Rights that I have in Indiana or Texan in Texas, not trying to pull the rest of us down.
     
  21. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    permit to possess a handgun.

    one handgun per month purchase rule.
     
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    more draconian laws, where the previous laws have all failed......registration leads to confiscation
     
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    What would one handgun per month accomplish?
     
  24. OrlandoChuck

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    There are lots of gun carrying criminals. Do you know how often they are prosecuted for illegally possessing a firearm? The charge is usually dropped when plea bargaining other charges. I don think it will make much of a difference in our gun violence stats, considering that people that are currently prohibited from owning a firearm are the ones responsible for the bulk of the gun murder statistics. They don't seem to care that it is illegal to carry.
    Also, it would be backdoor registration.
    Tell me how not having a one gun purchase a month is currently contributing to our murder statistics.
    And, how could you enforce that since people buy used guns from each other?
     
  25. Turtledude

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    two stupid suggestions that only harass honest citizens

    since criminals cannot legally own a handgun, these proposed laws only apply to good people proving my point that the goal of gun restrictionists is to hassle law abiding americans
     

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