Permissive Laws for Gun Exhibitionists

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  1. buddhaman

    buddhaman New Member

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    Seems to work okay in Europe.
     
  2. buddhaman

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    The other 300 million guns are owned by private citizens. ATF and FBI investigations have found that the primary source of weapons used in crimes are straw purchases and unscrupulous licensed dealers. Your suggestion that reducing the primary supply would have no impact is illogical.

    It's "rights".
     
  3. Crawdadr

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    Europe for the most part disarmed in the 40's. The fascists took the weapons away from everyone and in the UK they collected the weapons for the home defense units after Dunkirk. We have 300 million plus weapons in this country. That is a BIG difference and to add to that a strong culture of independent action that would lead to millions defying any law to remove their weapons. Imagine if the government tomorrow said everyone HAS to turn in their weapons. All of a sudden you would have millions of law abiding citizens becoming criminals. It would be chaos. Because we remember what happened in Europe to the unarmed populaces I am sorry but we will never be put into the same position that the jews, gypsys, and homosexuls were put in by Hitler. Some do learn from the past and do not wish to be victims.

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    All of them huh? Wierd so all these criminals are getting brand new guns please provide a link
     
  4. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Every one of the above proposals can be easily subverted and defeated with less than five minutes worth of effort. One who illegally sells a firearm to a prohibited individual would simply have to file a false report of theft to cover their tracks. If the firearm is ever found, it will come down to the word of the last known owner who filed the report, against the word of someone with a criminal record.
     
  5. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?

    There are at least seven European countries that have higher homicide rates than the US.

    If that's what you calling working okay then I wonder why we are even having this discussion since the US must be doing "okay" as well.
     
  6. Johnny-C

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    The ones which cause people to place GUNS at the top of their list to resolve or protect against. Really, it's human nature manifest as machines and DEATH.

    But no, many can't pull themselves (even for a moment) away from the traditions and paradigm which have enslaved mankind to itself for millennia. I'll correct myself and add here, that those old "fears and ideas" AREN'T 'outdated'. I'm reminded that's most likely the truth, by the views and attitudes expressed in this forum.

    Here we go... more of the same; death/destruction.

    Regards.
     
  7. Johnny-C

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    Good point.

    A Black man... can't even carry a TOY gun in a Walmart, without getting shot dead. :(

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    You're correct.

    We are a nation of fearful people wrapped in violence. If we don't 'evolve' AWAY from the... we're finished.
     
  8. ballantine

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    Is that so?

    LMAO! You clowns are highly deluded.

    Here's a Tea Party rally in Arizona (you know, Arizona - the place where they hate illegals, the place where Sheriff Joe is from):

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  9. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    That does not answer the question. What old fears and ideas are you referring to? Be specific. Do not refer to some vague generality of a standard without clarification.

    So the old fears and ideas you refer to, by your own admission, are not outdated in the modern world, but you do not believe that they are still relevant?
     
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    That's odd. I thought that all public lower education schools were no guns zones. They walk around in your kid's school threatening to shoo the place up?
    wow...............call the p-o-l-i-c-e..........take pics to prove your claim.
    I think you should stop advertising that everyone in your schools are disarmed and easy targets...maybe that'll show those Freedom lovers
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    isn't that a black man in the center of the pic? having a casual chat ( it appears) with a racist (or some are assured of)....
    If I use the latest attack dogma of the Rights haters, this isn't what it appears. They are intimidating and brandishing and threatening...... that scares them.
    bawawawhahahahahahah......Rights haters...........they can be almost as funny as Monty Python..........not
     
  12. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll never understand how people can complain about how citizens are murdered by the government due to their skin tone in one breath, and then in the next, call for the removal of arms from citizens while allowing the government to have a monopoly on them. Seems like a sadistic death wish to me.
     
  13. Johnny-C

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    I reflected what I thought was important. I'm not here to answer according to you 'standard'.

    Even so, you're free to disagree.
     
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    I completely and totally agree.

    CCW is the way to go. Anything else without a direct purpose(you're going hunting, you're going to a gun show, you're taking your weapon to a gun shop, etc) is just idiotic flaunting of a weapon whose only real purpose is to maim or kill. Guns should be treated with reverence and respect, not as a means to bolster your social self esteem and get attention.

    I support the 2nd, I support CCW, but these open carry window lickers can bite me.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    You introduced the argument. Now you are unwilling to elaborate on specifically what you meant?
     
  16. Johnny-C

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    I said what I needed to say.

    If you want to share something more, okay.

    I'm done.
     
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    In other words: you surrender.
     
  18. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Welcome to his ignore list.
     
  19. garyd

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    Thousands of target shooters would disagree with the idea that the only purpose of a fire arm is to maim and kill. By the way I am all for open carry. Some jack ass wants to put a target on his back that's fine by me. While he's drawing fire and can get my piece into action to take down the perp.
     

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