Children will win the fight for same sex marriage and adoption by gays!

So?? What is your point? Joint adoption by same sex couples is a relatively new thing. Most states have come on board with that over the last two years since Windsor. Although adoption by single gay people has generally been allowed for a while now, most singles, gay or not do not adopt.

And why do you bring up abuse. Did anyone ever say that there is no such thing as an abusive gay parent?

Here are some additional stats for you. That 110K figure may be even lower, but SO WHAT? Every child that has a home, that otherwise might not is a good thing

An estimated 6 to 14 million children have gay or lesbian parents.(That will be better off when the parents can marry)

Latest statistics from the U.S. Census 2000, the National Survey of Family Growth (2002), and the Adoption and Foster Care Analysis and Reporting System (2004) include:

• An estimated two million LGLB people are interested in adopting.

• An estimated 65,500 adopted children are living with a lesbian or gay parent.

• More than 16,000 adopted children are living with lesbian and gay parents in California, the highest number among the states.

• Gay and lesbian parents are raising four percent of all adopted children in the United States.

• Adopted children with same-sex parents are younger and more likely to be foreign born.
http://adoption.about.com/od/gaylesbian/f/gayparents.htm

 

The point was that you were doing some exaggeration when you said millions of children have been adopted.

 

Except that I didn't say that at all.

 

In your previous post you said:

Fact: There are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of children in the care of gay people

Just pointing out that that is an exaggeration and presenting you with some additional information to be more accurate.

I'm done now.

 

In the care of gay people does not mean adopted. I"M done now

 

I would respond in kind, but we both know that you would again whine to the moderaters, and I would be summarily banned.

 

You would respond if you could refute anything that I've said with facts and logic, which you cant. Here is a little something else that I recently penned for an editorial. Lets see what you can do with this:

 

I already did. And then the moderaters deleted it.

 

They likely deleted it because it violated the rules. My guess is rule #2

I don't think that they are out to get you.

 

Warning from Canada: Gay Marriage Erodes Rights



Americans need to understand that the endgame of the LGBT rights movement involves centralized state power—and the end of First Amendment freedoms.
I am one of six adult children of gay parents who recently filed amicus briefs with the US Supreme Court, asking the Court to respect the authority of citizens to keep the original definition of marriage: a union between one man and one woman to the exclusion of all others, so that children may know and may be raised by their biological parents. I also live in Canada, where same-sex marriage was federally mandated in 2005.
I am the daughter of a gay father who died of AIDS. I described my experiences in my book: Out From Under: The Impact of Homosexual Parenting. Over fifty adult children who were raised by LGBT parents have communicated with me and share my concerns about same-sex marriage and parenting. Many of us struggle with our own sexuality and sense of gender because of the influences in our household environments growing up.
We have great compassion for people who struggle with their sexuality and gender identity—not animosity. And we love our parents. Yet, when we go public with our stories, we often face ostracism, silencing, and threats.
I want to warn America to expect severe erosion of First Amendment freedoms if the US Supreme Court mandates same-sex marriage. The consequences have played out in Canada for ten years now, and they are truly Orwellian in nature and scope.

Read More: http://tinyurl.com/q4a7mh8

 

Oh please! Not this crap again. End of first amendment freedoms? Centralized state power? It sounds like paranoid bovine excrement.

One anecdotal account of someone's experience means nothing. Yes I know, there are a few other such stories out there but that is against the backdrop out millions of well adjusted families headed by gay people. This is just ridiculous! I don't suppose you read post 182 above. This is not even the right argument in relation to same sex marriage.

 

blah blah blah..that is exactly the same tactics used here that were used there. You cannot tell us that you would love nothing better than to control speech about homosexuals....hell, the homosexuals have already done it across the country.
Mayor of Dallas
Pizza joint
naw, you don't want to control free speech..........................you want the whole enchilada ...... thought, too

 

No one wants to control speech. You can bloviate until you turn blue. No body cares what you or anyone says. It's what you do and how you treat people that matters.

 

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really................................ "You can't say that or else I'll report you to the speech police" even in here.......................

 

STOP shamelessly exploiting children, and spreading fear with lies and propaganda. Here is the truth about Canada:

 

No, its because I am the wrong side of the debate.

 

Yes that must be it, even thought there are tons of anti-homosexual comments and threads everywhere they must only be out to get YOU. Lol love the victim mentality.

 

I don't think I have EVER seen any post deleted or modified because the poster is simply lying. Notice that the accusation of moderater ideology is itself a lie, yet your post is still up.

 

Oh, everybody is out to get you?

From what I have seen your debate style is poor, and you often resort to personal attack. So I don't buy a conspiracy that is out to get you.

 

I said it was because I am on the wrong side of the debate and said nothing about anyone lying. Certainly no I.

 

Yes. Your excuse was that the moderators disagree with your opinion, and therefore have been deleting your posts. This is a lie. Own up, for once.

 

Yes, and your BS about anyone" lying" is just that, BS.

 

So you are insisting that the moderators ARE picking on you for holding the wrong opinion? Really? OK, maybe you really don't know any better

 

You can drop it now. Or they will sanction me for being off topic.

 

What whiney liberal BS. There are more children growing up in a household with two closely related adults than there are children with gay couples. So stop with this hypocritical BS about your concern for the children. YOUR only concern is the gay adults trying to ape heterosexual couples.
But isn't it revealing, the same people that claim marriage has nothing to do with procreation, that marriage is not limited to heterosexual couples because they are the only couples with the potential of procreation, are the same people that insist marriage must be extended to all gay couples, because they might decide to adopt, use in-vitro fertilization or hire a surrogate mother. Heterosexual sex has a strong natural tendency to lead to procreation. Gay sex has no tendency whatsoever to lead to adoption or in-vitro fertilization.