Protect schools with firearms!

From http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/06/01/vince-vaughn-wants-all-american-schools-protected-with-firearms/

Actually Vaughn is not the right guy to quote, but for the fact that the majority thought this way.
The majority here think - the more guns we have the better for our security.

But is it this fact undeniable?
Let us speak (again) of gun-restriction. Every week I read articles and watch broadcasts of some insane shooting people just for no special reason.
My brother's son told me last week his classmate brags he is free to come to school with any of a dozen guns his father is carrying at home.

For me it is called nothing but lawlessness.
We need to change something to reduce the possibility of manslaughter and related things.

 

Would you rather shoot someone at a place that says "No Guns" or somewhere with a lot of guns?

Psssstttt.... Anyone intelligent enough to commit that sort of attack would pick option A.

 

The key to reduce possibility of manslaughter is education. The answer is not to ban guns, but increase exposure and knowledge of them. Get rid of the fear and the fantasy of them and teach people to respect them like a tool. Like a table saw. If used properly, they are safe and very useful. If used improperly, you will likely lose some bits. The only thing that will stop bad people with guns is good people with guns. Police will not always get their fast enough to stop the bad people from committing their bad acts. Better to have good people with guns on site to defend the innocents.

 

Good people guns end up in bad people's hands. If good people did not have guns, bad people would not have guns.

 

Really? I believe your wrong about that. Not to mention the most valuable gun to a criminal is a ghost gun.

A gun made in an illegal shop.

They have no record and are thus untraceable for the first few crimes.

What about those guns?

We should just inform people of firearm safety and arm every civilian. This way everyone can protect themselves.

 

As long as US officials continue "solving problems" by hurling explosives, white phosphorous, napalm, bullets and other forms of extreme violence, they will continue to inspire others to copy their style.

 

In Syria, the officials kept the Syrian people defenseless, so that the enemies of Syria would be able to operate with little opposition.
The Syrian officials even kept their top generals unarmed and helpless before attacks from US backed terrorists.

This made it extremely easy for US/Saudi/Israeli assassins to kill protestors and police to create the image of "civil war".

 

Who said mass shooters were either intelligent or sane? A significant proportion are actually "suicide by cop" so I would think there may be appeal in more guns

 

Meanwhile here in Australia the cost on an illegal gun is rising to the point where criminals are "loaning" guns and if you shoot it you bought it. This makes it very very difficult for the casual criminal to get their hands on a gun - the teen on his first robbery, the smack head looking for a little extra cash

Even the career criminal can have difficulty and illegal weapons makes when caught are jailed

 

Every time there's an atrocity like a school massacre the gun nuts are lining up outside their local Church of the Holy Gun to stock up for the coming apocalypse.
It's really not rocket science to link America's insane levels of gun ownership to the wholly disproportionate level of gun-related crime.
Of course the defenders will say, 'take our guns and only criminals will have them'. That may well be the case, but why is it, then, that every other 'civilised' nation with strict firearms legislation sees dramatic falls in firearm-related crime when those laws are enacted? For some reason I'm always met with silence whenever I mention that unpalatable (to some), fact.

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Same here in Britain where the same weapon is frequently found to have been used by several individuals in committing unrelated crimes.

 

Umm... Let's see... The shooter in Colorado, Targeted a no gun zone.

Sandy Hook, Shooter targeted a no gun zone.

Columbine, Targeted a no gun zone.

Virginia Tech. Targeted a no gun zone.

Shall we continue?

Australia is an island and holds no significance to an argument about America.

We have our southern border where a large flow of guns would come from if they were to ever be outlawed.

Stop trying to take peoples property and instead educate everybody about them.

Firearm safety should be a class in all schools.

Mass killings with firearms usually happen in gun free zones.

 

Did they deliberately target a no gun zone or were their targets in no gun zones because they had always been targets of mass shooters since before the NRA invented the term "no gun zone"?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/gun-free-zones-mass-shootings

BTW correlation does not equal causation

 

I think a valid point is that extra guns would cause more crossfire making it more dangerous for everyone. That being said I think there should be trained professionals ready to eliminate the threat without causing undue harm.

 

Why does America have more mass shootings than anyone else?

 

"Australia is an island". Yes, and it's just about the same size as the continental United States-we're not talking Hawaii-size islands here but continent size. Your border with Mexico is a shade under 2000 miles long (1954 miles to be exact). Tell me how you're going to police that.

 

Nothing to do with the 300 million guns in circulation, naturally...

 

Table saw is less likely to kill an innocent rather than a gun. Whether you like it or not - it's all about legislation. If it is on paper there will be victims.
The law should be more straight and more strict and there's nothing bad in it - it won't affect those who have head screwed on the right way)

And that's the main question and the main proof we NEED changes in gun legislation.
All the cries about the rights violating fade away when this question is asked.

Or anybody thinks gun control has nothing to do here?

 

Don't get me wrong - I do not think that banning guns is going to be AMERICA'S answer - too many guns already in circulation. But I do think it is a combination of effects, some social, some psychological and some physical that is leading to a high firearm mortality rate. Refusal to even acknowledge the issue is one of the root causes of the problem itself

 

You're right - we're not going to relinquish our right to bear arms.

It should come as no surprise that the areas where gun violence is most acute is where social problems are most acute. I live in a rural area where just about everyone owns a firearm of some sort, but you don't see the gun violence you see in our cities. Obviously, the problem isn't guns or the number of guns in circulation.

For the most part, gun violence is a symptom, not the disease, and Daniel Patrick Moynihan predicted the inevitable consequences of our failed social policies 50 years ago:

"From the wild Irish slums of the 19th-century Eastern seaboard, to the riot-torn suburbs of Los Angeles, there is one unmistakable lesson in American history: a community that allows large numbers of young men to grow up in broken families, dominated by women, never acquiring any stable relationship to male authority, never acquiring any set of rational expectations about the future--that community asks for and gets chaos. Crime, violence, unrest, disorder. . .are not only to be expected, they are very near to inevitable. And they are richly deserved."

It's ironic that the same political segment of our country that screams the loudest for gun control is the same segment that is responsible for the social engineering disaster that is unfolding across America.

 

Oh really and where did all the guns go that were already in bad peoples hands? Did they turn them in with the good people or did they just disappear like magic?

 

Why does India have the most acid attacks or why does Bangladesh have the most "chopping up" blogger attacks? It is because it is the crime dejure of our local psychos. I prey they do not switch to bombs again because that was their method for a long time.

 

To hell with physical and psychological effects. America needs to keep its mentality. No changes required. I don't want anything to change, unless it is a change closer towards reflecting the U.S. constitution.

 

They all start in good people's hands. Once they end up in bad people's hands, it does not matter where they end up. They would never have been there but for "responsible gun owners".

 

Well that is great but that train done left the station lets deal with the reality of what is not what could have been. 300mil Guns are there and they are not going away. So what do you propose that takes that into consideration?

 

I am glad our country has a strong gun culture. I would be curious to see the percentage of gun deaths in gang areas.

This countries biggest problem is no one wants to take responsibility for their one lives in any way.

I'm fat, it's McDonalds fault
I'm ugly, it's models fault
I'm poor, it's the rich guys fault

At some point we need to see that people are the ones killing others. I am very responsible with my guns as are the majority of people.

Most private schools in LA have an armed officer at the front now, looks like it will be much more worth private school now days compared to the 80's for me in many ways.

I remember not thinking there was much of difference, getting more and more important