Why would gays want to be part of something they say is discriminatory?

For centuries marriage was defined as a union between one man and one woman and the left and LGBT community called that discriminatory. So why would they want to be part of something that symbolized discrimination since the dawn of time? I'm guessing they won't and will eventually want marriage re-defined with a new word taking its place.

We've already seen one, and possibly two states try to remove the words Bride/Wife and Husband/Groom from marriage licenses and replace them with Person A and Person B. Thank god they failed. But the left never stops trying. Ever.

And why does the left want to completely destroy the meaning of traditional marriage only to want to participate in the traditions of traditional marriage?

The LGBTers could have gotten everything straight people have only they'd have to go about it in a different manner. So what? The LGBT community self -segregates like no other group because they're proud of who they are. To prove this I offer up their parades, cruises, resorts, bars, political lobby, pastel flag, etc. right up to what they call themselves, LGBT - there is no mention of anything mainstream in those letters. So when a group intentionally segregates itself from the mainstream, then why would they want to indulge themselves in something that is mainstream and then try to redefine what that indulgence is for the rest of us?

I'm predicting that, by necessity, verbiage will develop to describe straight and same sex marriage, and why not? Verbiage already exists to define every other deviation from heterosexuality, so why not this? If the verbiage isn't intentionally developed then it will be whatever words pop up in social conversations and the possibility exists some will find it offensive.

 

I'll be looking forward to the 1st lesbian divorce. No men to blame and force to give 75% of his possessions. Will judges go after the more butch lesbian?

 

I've read a story or two where gays who got married in California who moved to another state couldn't get a divorce because 1. the marriage wasn't recognized, and 2. even if it was, there were no laws to guide the judges on how to proceed. So the gays had to go back to California and do it.

 

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No one called marriage discriminatory. They called the bans against two people of the same gender discriminatory. The rest of your statement here is just made up fluff.

Gender neutrally worded marriage contracts make sense when two people of any gender can marry.

Gays marrying destroys nothing. Can two people of the opposite sex still marry and take part in their ideal of traditional marriage? Why yes, yes then can. So again...just more parroted talking points that mean nothing.

I assume you mean civil unions. So you think segregating gays as a second class citizenry is equality? Oh look your next point is that gays segregate themselves. So you would rather do it for them?

Gays create these things as a way of creating safe spaces for themselves and others who would join.

Same reason everyone else does. Two loving people who want to create a life together and have their bond and commitment announced to the world.

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Nope. There is no such thing as gay marriage. It's always been just marriage. The only reason it was ever termed gay marriage was for ease of terminology to describe the people fighting for marriage.

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Another one of the many reasons gay marriage is legal in all fifty states now.

 

Same reason blacks wanted to be part of the public school system. If you remove the unfair discrimination at the door, the institution itself has value. Two people get married to form a union, to live a shared life. The legal status 'married' let's folks live that way in a society who's laws don't otherwise make it easy.




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Even you had to say gay marriage in order to identify it as being different than straight marriage. You even justify gays having their own thing but deny that to others.

Gay marriage will never, ever be equal to a traditional marriage because there is no husband and wife, bride and groom, Mr and Mrs, or ability to procreate. Those are what traditional marriages give us, everything else is a flimsy imitation and this is why the LBGT community will never be satisfied because they will never have those things, thus the reason why they need to reinvent and rename what marriage is so they can be included. Gays can never have an equal marriage until they somehow change mine. The way this country is going, 50 years from now the terms Mr and Mrs might no longer exist.

 

My god, every marriage - every last one - is unique. There is no "equivalency of marriage" or whatever you want to call it. Equality comes in by having the right to marry. It's about rights, not procreation, salutations or any other particular that is decided on by those couples themselves.

 

OK, then be equal, but did you have to try screw up the meaning of marriage for the rest of us?

 

Are you really that afraid that now you can legally divorce and marry a guy, that you might actually do it?

 

You mad, bro? Good. Ye reap what ye sow.

 

OMG. Try reading my post again.

One more time: Every marriage is unique. The "meaning of marriage" is decided by those who are married, not me, not you, not the law. Not by anyone but the participants themselves. Comprendes?

 

same reason inter-racial couples wanted to marry their loved ones

 

Yep, and I'm sure there were the same "sky is falling" claims after Loving v. Virginia was decided by the SC.

Tell us people, how have we suffered as a society because of that "redefinition" of marriage?

 

So you think you're insulting me by insinuating that I'm gay, do ya? All you did was prove your own bigotry by thinking there's something wrong with gays and using them as a slur.

See, the left are the true bigots and haters.

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They can still be called Mr and Mrs, husband and wife, bride and groom, right? That's tradition.

 

It was a joke. Ya know, humor. It made me laugh. You should be able to laugh as well.

 

Nobody is claiming that marriage is discriminatory. They are claiming that laws banning gay marriage are discriminatory, and rightfully so.

 

Unique? Are you kidding me? People are unique, marriages have a certain set of rules and traditions. Husbands and wives are part of those rules and traditions.

 

Difference being, I have no qualms whatsoever seeing two people commit into a loving relationship and enjoying any and all benefits thereof... nice try at turning the tables but why u mad bro?

 

It's amazing how people can twist words and logic in rationalizing their emotions. Simply amazing.

 

You don't have to wait long since it has already happened.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...ouple-married-in-california-getting-divorced/

And to think nothing outrageous occurred.

A more interesting question is why do you think a gay couple getting divorced would be any different than a straight couple getting divorced?

More importantly why do you think gay people are fundamentally different than straight people?

 

LOL. You do realize that marriages are the joining of two people? Marriages are as unique as the people who enter them. Sorry, but no one is bound by tradition.

 

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Get enough people throwing poop against the wall and hope something sticks.

 

Where did I say gay people are fundamentally different than straight people? Where? They're called gay because they're not straight, that's the label they've chosen. Marriage is a label chosen by straight people for their unions. If gays want a union with the benefits of marriage, then by all means enter into a contractual agreement similar to marriage, but call it something else.

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Two straight people. Husband and wife.

And if no one is bound by tradition they why did those two lesbians go nuts over some wedding rings and what about honeymoons and the father dancing with the bride? Oh, let's hold off on that last one.

 

Now I see your problem. You think marriage is nothing but a business arrangement. Sorry, but in this day and age, in this country, it's more about love.

 

That rich. If it's was all about love then gays wouldn't be hollering about the perceived business aspect of it, they'd just get on with their civil unions and be done with it.