Sanders: 'We Have Got to Apologize for Slavery'

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Steve N, Jul 10, 2015.

  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right, I don't go to kook blog sites with an agenda. How about some proof from a reliable news source they were "falsely" imprisoned? You are portraying someones "opinion" on what happened near 100 years ago and saying it's fact. Let's see some proof. Not a guilty white guy who wrote a book which coincidentally came out in...........wait for it...........2008 when Obama was running for President.
     
  2. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. More crapola.

    Slaves were not just cotton pickers. Geeze. Where there was free labor, and jobs to do -- a slave could be put to work.

    Do you really need to be told that?

    A little more light reading for you.

    The Confederacy's Plan to Conquer Latin America |


    "In the years leading up to the Civil War, many Northerners and Southerners alike wanted the federal government to take a more aggressive approach toward acquiring new territory. In fact, some private citizens, known as filibusters, took matters into their own hands. They raised small armies illegally; ventured into Mexico, Cuba, and South America; and attempted to seize control of the lands. One particularly successful filibuster, William Walker, actually made himself president of Nicaragua and ruled from 1856 to 1857.
    For the most part, these filibusters were just men in search of adventure. Others, however, were Southern imperialists who wanted to conquer new territories in the tropics. Abolitionist factions in the North greatly opposed their efforts, and the debate over Southern expansion only increased tensions in a divided nation. As the country drifted into war, U.S. Vice President John Breckinridge of Kentucky warned that "the Southern states cannot afford to be shut off from all possibility of expansion towards the tropics by the hostile action of the federal government."
    But Abraham Lincoln's election in November 1860 put an end to the argument. The anti-slavery president refused to compromise, and war broke out in April 1861.

    Confederate Colonies, South of the Border ..."


    the Confederacy's plan was to expand slavery -- it was all over everything they wrote.

    Pick up some history books. Not those written by Lost Causers.
     
  3. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shoot dude, everybody knows it's all them white breads over in the inner cities that are killing blacks everyday over drugs and petty disagreements... Exspeshully in Chicago and other places like that.
     
  4. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    This is a matter of historical record, dude.

    The book was published in 2009.
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    Douglas A. Blackmon
    Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group, Jan 6, 2009 - History - 368 pages





    "In this groundbreaking historical expose, Douglas A. Blackmon brings to light one of the most shameful chapters in American history—an “Age of Neoslavery” that thrived from the aftermath of the Civil War through the dawn of World War II.Using a vast record of original documents and personal narratives,

    Douglas A. Blackmon unearths the lost stories of slaves and their descendants who journeyed into freedom after the Emancipation Proclamation and then back into the shadow of involuntary servitude shortly thereafter. By turns moving, sobering, and shocking, this unprecedented account reveals the stories of those who fought unsuccessfully against the re-emergence of human labor trafficking, the companies that profited most from neoslavery, and the insidious legacy of racism that reverberates today."

    A documentary was done after. You can watch it online for free (but you won't)

    For the others who might have an interest:
    Watch The Film | Slavery by Another Name | PBS


    Oh, did I mention the author won the Pulitzer Prize for the book?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/books/2009-arts-pulitzer.html

    GENERAL NONFICTION: “Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black People in America from the Civil War to World War II,” by Douglas A. Blackmon
    A precise and eloquent work that examines a deliberate system of racial suppression and that rescues a multitude of atrocities from virtual obscurity.

     
  5. Terrapinstation

    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    Strangely enough, I'm not the one calling blacks 3rd and 4th class citizens. BTW, who are the 2nd and 3rd class?
     
  6. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have books from 1983 (8 piece collection) and 1986 (full A-Z Encyclopedia Britannica collection) about the Civil War. Actual documents and paperwork and battlefield pictures and letters written home, etc... Know what I like the most about pre-PC books? They actually tell the truth. I went to britannica.com Friday out of curiosity, to see what they'd written on the Civil War.....PHOOF, it was so politically correct and inaccurate that I couldn't believe my eyes... No wonder people think Lincoln was a hero and the Civil War was based on slavery...
     
  7. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    Your reply didn't even address my post. Not that I'm surprised.

    Know what I like?

    Making my living in history. I have for going on three decades now.
    Literally over ten thousand *original* Civil War letters / documents are in my archives or have passed through my hands.

    More original history has passed through my hands than you could ever hope to see or touch.

    Most of my knowledge and perspective comes from touching, owning, archiving, transcribing and researching these thousands and thousands of pieces of original Civil War history - letters, diaries, journals and documents, some of which are now residing in museums and Historical Societies. A few in the National Archives and Library of Congress. They made their way there because of me. Books have been written based on some of my original archives.

    I also spend a great time reading the original source pamphlets, magazines, newspapers and books, written AT THE TIME OF THE WAR. Most all of my material is original source material. Slavery at the time was *the* most important topic in many of them. Yes, it was the total and consuming matter of the day -- the desire of the South to preserve and expand slavery.

    I have had original documents and letters of nearly every President and most Founders pass through my hands; works signed by Confederate Generals, Union generals; letters, diaries, journals of the common folk, north and south, all the way down to the lowly private - by the thousands - all giving me what I think is a rather unique perspective.

    History is not just a hobby for me, it is literally my life. I eat, drink, live and breath it. Every day.

    Original works. It sometimes literally gives me shivers how close I am to the actual human that wrote this or that piece 150 or 250 years ago.
    I live a truly blessed existence.

    Don't for a minute think you can school me on history.

    <smh>

    Truly, a Lost Cause.
     
  8. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The SPLC??:??

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    The SPLC are THE most bigoted racists in America today.

    In fact, the SPLC is so racist and so biased that none of the "hate groups" on their list include racist street and prison gangs that kill so many thousands each year. In fact all of the so called "hate groups" on their list combined haven't killed enough people in one year to count on one hand. The SPLC won't include the Crips, Bloods, Mexican Mafia, M-13 or even the Aryan Brotherhood. Of course hyper racists like La Raza are not on list either.

    What a joke, the SPLC are laughable bigots.

    Here is the most racist link I've ever come across: http://www.splcenter.org/hate-map
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm proud to say that I have already apologized to and paid reparations to every slave I have ever owned.

    I now support carpey bombing the African ancestors of those who sold them into slavery in the first place. I'm PC like that...
     
  10. Moriah

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    I envy you so much. I love history also.
     
  11. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Send me the cash instead of a ticket. Thank you.:angel:
     
  12. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    Oh, give it a rest, chump. You know I'm spot on.

    I've told you why with two sparkling examples.
     
  13. Tomray

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    Mine too! And I've heard plenty about the discrimination my parents and grandparents had to tolerate! So I'll be damned if some liberal socialist has the right to apologize for me! Sanders DOES NOT speak for me or for anyone but his own ignorant self!!!
     
  14. Moriah

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    I want to read this book. I have a copy of President Jimmy Carter's autobiograpy, "An Hour Before Daylight". In that book President Carter talks about the conditions on his Dad's peanut farm. The way the Blacks lived was not too much different than slavery; this was during the 1920s and 1930s. The White neighbors referred to the Black workers on Mr. Carter's farm as "Earl's nigras" . It's a miracle President Carter grew up to be as kind and unbiased as he is.
     
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    Yeah, who's going to apologize for Bernie Sanders?
     
  16. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I ran that thru Google translate and it came up as "I gotta come up with some kind of way to cover up the fact that I didn't ask the right question, and this is all I got."
     
  17. Professor Peabody

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    It's a book, has it been peer reviewed? If so post a link.
     
  18. Micketto

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    Then while the libs are involved in this "dig up the dead bodies" hysteria, have them dig up slaves and toss $50,000 in each of their caskets.

    That's a lot more than the paid workers made, and the slaves are the ones who are owed.
    Not the great-great-great-great-great grandkids who are still mad and soaking up welfare already.


    Not making light of slavery... it was horrifically wrong.

    I'm making light of these stupid threads.
     
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    Since you're clearly completely obsessed with skin color, how many people have died from "mass murder" in America vs. the average, daily murders in the cities of Chicago, Flint, Detroit, NYC, LA, Englewood and Atlanta ?
     
  21. Josh77

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    Feel free to give $50,000 to the next black guy you meet. I'm white, and not rich. Are you saying the wealth of America has nothin to do with the labors of white people? Where is my $50,000 for my ancestors contributions? I obviously did not get any of the wealth that they produced. I demand my fair share!

    Ohhhhh... My skin is the wrong color you say? Well, I guess I will just have to continue to work to get paid then. Novel concept, I know.
     
  22. Esau

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    i know what i know which is why i stated your post is full of lies. you made a sweeping comment and provided no primary source for your wild fantasy you call HIStory. unless you can show some kind of evidence then i will continue to doubt everything you post for you have given me no reason to believe a word you type. dont let your ego cash cheques you cannot afford.
     
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    Then you should easily be able to prove me wrong....you cannot? Not a surprise.
     
  24. Esau

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    you are the one making wild claims, not me. dont forget that tiny detail. i called you out, you back up, the game was over days ago.
     
  25. Pollycy

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    Do you doubt the truth of the facts I presented in my post? Then tell us all please, when DID the American Civil War begin? When DID Lincoln issue the Emancipation Proclamation? If I'm such a guileless liar that I can't even spin simple dates correctly, you ought to be able to prove that I've lied and that you've told the truth.

    Oh, and while you're at it, please direct one of your scholarly rebuttals to this question I asked, "Thus, if slavery, per se, was the raison d'être for the American Civil War, wouldn't Lincoln have issued this before 1863?!" (This ought to be good....:cool:)
     

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